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From: Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to avoid y-or-n-p in a program?
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:21:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738ikpuge.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvbnx8ahra.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org

Stefan <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> So rather than adding additional function args to the command and using
>> something like (when (called-interactively-p) ...) the canonical way
>> would be to split the command into a function (probably with additional
>> function args) and a command that calls this function (the interactive
>> wrapper)?
>
> Yes, when that can be done without too much gymnastics, it's the best
> option.
>
>> This would be more directed towards Org-mode I think ...
>> What if a command/function is overly verbose wrt to messages when used
>> in a program? Is it reasonable to ask for including an optional switch
>> like this
>
>> (defun xyz (args &optional quiet)
>>   (unless quiet
>>     (message ...)))
>
>> to be able to suppress all the messages in the function call?
>
> The situation for messages is somewhat similar, although more subtle
> because "too many messages" is not as clear cut as "hangs, waiting for
> the user to respond".
>
> I think that for messages, the right answer is a more serious redesign
> of the messaging system, e.g. such that you can redirect messages
> (rather than just silence them), and maybe also do it conditionally on
> the "seriousness/urgency" of the message.

I remember that this was discussed not so long ago and seems to be
something that would really benefit Emacs as a whole. 

PS

BTW, just recently I asked if there is a logging system for PicoLisp,
and someone implemented a quite useful one with only 45 lines of code or
so (http://beneroth.ch/pil/log.l).

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




      reply	other threads:[~2014-03-14 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 15:37 How to avoid y-or-n-p in a program? Thorsten Jolitz
2014-03-12 16:14 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-03-12 16:50   ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-12 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-12 22:31   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-03-14 14:26   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-03-14 14:35     ` Stefan
2014-03-14 14:48       ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-03-14 16:09         ` Stefan
2014-03-14 17:21           ` Thorsten Jolitz [this message]

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