From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 03:49:59 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <8738f8w988.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87ha3s71mt.fsf@debian.uxu> <87tx7rsevi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8738fbscao.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1402710626 8078 80.91.229.3 (14 Jun 2014 01:50:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 01:50:26 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 14 03:50:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wvd6o-0003Fo-3C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 03:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33884 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wvd6n-0005eV-MR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:50:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 52 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:DaaBr5/AlAGZZ9VGBOHOtrKEv2k= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205959 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98229 Archived-At: Nikolai Weibull writes: > Remembering when to use which of four symbols is > hardly taxing (and – even when considering additional > “variants” such as ‘′’, ‘″’ for prime and double > prime – not close to the definition of umpteen, I’d > say), though the “how to type them in” arguments > deserves a bit more consideration, such as the > automatic replacement that many editors perform. The “ and ’ just looks silly and they are disruptive. The two chars after the words "such as" I cannot see (they are shown as diamonds). As for remembering/typing, it is again not a question of - "is it possible to do?" - not with respect to humans nor to technology - of course it is possible! - the question is - and what I can see you still haven't answered it with one word - the question is *why* - what is the gain? who would benefit from it, and how so? This entire thread is an example why not to do it (though I agree a spellchecker should be fixed to cope, anyway, as some people have the poor taste to use those chars and those have to be accounted for) - and I just raised additional problems, on top of the fact that so much software around is just not up to it - so why this is (and can be) a problem (annoyance) is clear - the only thing that is a mystery is why anyone would want it to begin with. > Personally, keyboard bindings such as \C-k ' 9 (from > Vim and now Evil) are wired deep into my fingers, so > much so that I still haven’t been able to move over > to using the more convenient & ' 9 from the rfc1345 > input method. OK, let me tell you how I do ' and ". ' I do by moving my right little finger one step (key) to the right. The " I do by moving the right little finger to the right shift, at the same time as the ring finger slides along to the ' key. So can you find one singe area in which anyone (human or technology) benefits from those goofy chars? It is just snobbish, not reality. Don't do it! -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573