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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 03:49:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738f8w988.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.3496.1402580195.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Nikolai Weibull <now@disu.se> writes:

> Remembering when to use which of four symbols is
> hardly taxing (and – even when considering additional
> “variants” such as ‘′’, ‘″’ for prime and double
> prime – not close to the definition of umpteen, I’d
> say), though the “how to type them in” arguments
> deserves a bit more consideration, such as the
> automatic replacement that many editors perform.

The “ and ’ just looks silly and they are
disruptive. The two chars after the words "such as" I
cannot see (they are shown as diamonds).

As for remembering/typing, it is again not a question
of - "is it possible to do?" - not with respect to
humans nor to technology - of course it is possible! -
the question is - and what I can see you still haven't
answered it with one word - the question is *why* -
what is the gain? who would benefit from it, and how
so?

This entire thread is an example why not to do it
(though I agree a spellchecker should be fixed to cope,
anyway, as some people have the poor taste to use those
chars and those have to be accounted for) - and I just
raised additional problems, on top of the fact that so
much software around is just not up to it - so why this
is (and can be) a problem (annoyance) is clear - the
only thing that is a mystery is why anyone would want
it to begin with.

> Personally, keyboard bindings such as \C-k ' 9 (from
> Vim and now Evil) are wired deep into my fingers, so
> much so that I still haven’t been able to move over
> to using the more convenient & ' 9 from the rfc1345
> input method.

OK, let me tell you how I do ' and ". ' I do by moving
my right little finger one step (key) to the right. The
" I do by moving the right little finger to the right
shift, at the same time as the ring finger slides along
to the ' key.

So can you find one singe area in which anyone (human
or technology) benefits from those goofy chars?

It is just snobbish, not reality. Don't do it!

-- 
underground experts united:
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-14  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3187.1402155569.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11  0:04 ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11  5:23   ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3375.1402464243.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 14:24     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11 15:03       ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3418.1402499010.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 15:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-11 16:57           ` Teemu Likonen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3437.1402505846.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-11 21:32             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-12  5:43           ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-12 12:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-12 13:36               ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-12 14:48                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3496.1402580195.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14  1:49                 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2014-06-14  5:45                   ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-17  1:09                     ` Keyboard layout purpose (was: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes) Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3627.1402724759.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:14                     ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14 14:51                       ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-14 15:26                         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-17  1:42                         ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.3651.1402757512.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 16:13                         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-16 15:35                           ` Joost Kremers
2014-06-17  2:21                           ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.3799.1402971688.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17  2:41                             ` Rusi
2014-06-17  3:05                               ` Rusi
2014-06-17  1:46                       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-15  2:48                     ` Sergio Pokrovskij
2014-06-17  1:30                       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-12 16:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3473.1402551809.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14  1:35             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  2:38             ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  5:19               ` Facts for fans: encodings history (was: Re: Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes) Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  7:37                 ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-14  8:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-14 10:46                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3631.1402731427.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:21                   ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-14  7:11               ` Getting Emacs to play nice with Hunspell and apostrophes Yuri Khan
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3630.1402729917.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-14 11:20                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-06-17  2:12 ` Rusi
2014-06-17  2:33   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2014-06-07 15:39 Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-07 17:43 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-06-07 17:59   ` Yuri Khan
2014-06-07 18:18   ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-07 17:53 ` Sharon Kimble
2014-06-07 18:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-07 18:28 ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-06-07 18:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-07 19:59     ` Nikolai Weibull

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