From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=2FKammer?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:25:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87383xk4ia.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429359927 29024 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2015 12:25:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:25:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 14:25:26 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YjRoK-0006v1-Q7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:25:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45564 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjRoJ-0002Vj-Pc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48497) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjRoG-0002Ve-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:25:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjRoF-0003Z2-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:25:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22e]:36296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YjRoF-0003Yp-JL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:25:19 -0400 Original-Received: by wgsk9 with SMTP id k9so136588276wgs.3 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 05:25:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=tYfH6HlgLQGkZVp7g1XTfsepV8fKDV6XBi1X548WD3w=; b=c7v8c37YZ9fBEtm2zJy5QSpkx/Hn2bFEDf9F59xr0x9rNJDvqXo7o08iXte8WPju9C S14U3Y3VxeIWT9IOay8sSjZfzbSnHAR2t7X0DM8m9vC2c7GYgelZkhT0WNagKINCYnYI bT/98kS56KX04I2azOJ9QVY1S21F0ae6rJcs3eLh8Dj8tkrkqYKYS6GKPrbaBG5Y6i1z YesyZEO9nCOl+IM0SIe/xm4/cWPBcpj/QTOvd1sg9b0bRhRUDopJEAWnH6A+DkIfmXrI wVWjjVhShKVXQOJ7mYicMU+H3Mh/CJeymsrV+AJlqqzhFIgRD1zIpn4REJQAoYLLpcAc YuGA== X-Received: by 10.194.184.10 with SMTP id eq10mr14343893wjc.147.1429359918978; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 05:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from taylan.uni.cx (p200300514A439B920213E8FFFEED36FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:51:4a43:9b92:213:e8ff:feed:36fb]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o6sm6731563wiz.24.2015.04.18.05.25.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Apr 2015 05:25:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: 87a8ysjsfd.fsf@gmail.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185570 Archived-At: Hi, has it been considered yet to simply support an optional ~/.emacs.d/pre-package-init.el file that always gets executed before packages are initialized (just like the current init.el), then packages get initialized, and then init.el or ~/.emacs is loaded? So startup looks like: 1. Load ~/.emacs.d/pre-package-init.el if it exists. 2. Initialize packages. 3. Load ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el if one exists. Are there any disadvantages to this approach? Taylan P.S.: We can even support a setting which further delays package initialization, i.e. change the order of steps 2 and 3, if really desired. It should be as simple as setting a variable in pre-package-init.el.