From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 4K Bugs Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 20:10:16 +0000 Message-ID: <8737u9kv6f.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452197603 19518 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2016 20:13:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 20:13:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 21:13:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGvj-0005xY-Fh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 21:13:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60860 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGvi-000889-Ur for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 15:13:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGt7-0003t2-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 15:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGt2-0002IN-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 15:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:57001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGt1-0002Hh-L5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 15:10:19 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGt0-0006Fu-CQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 20:10:18 +0000 Original-Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aHGt0-0003mw-J6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 20:10:18 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87mvszdp6b.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 25 Dec 2015 07:21:00 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197756 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > There are 4051 open bugs in the Emacs bug tracker. Did we forget to > celebrate, or are we waiting until it reaches a rounder number, like > 4096? > > I shouldn't really be the one to kvetch about this since I disappear > for months on end, but is there something that we could do to make more > people do bug triage? > > Move debbugs-gnu from ELPA to Emacs? :-) I'm very late to this discussion, but inspired by Lar's bug fix spree I decided to see if I could have a go myself. I found the process a little confusing. Here are some points: - After installing debbugs, there is no obvious entry point. M-x debugs-[tab] gives 30 different commands. - The two shortest commands are debbugs-org and debbugs-gnu. The former lists all the bugs for Org-Mode, and the latter Emacs. Why debbugs-gnu and not debbugs-emacs? I don't know. - debbugs-gnu list bugs from number 158 and upward; the entire first 500 is about emacs 23 pre-releases. If I want to get the latest bugs, they are on page 5. - Bugs marked as "done" and "unreproducible" are displayed by default. - On none of the debbugs pages are there any obvious menu items or bug-related functionality. - I found out about hitting "C" to send a control message. Configuring this to "mail client" and up pops thunderbird, although I am a Gnus user. - I found "bugtracker" in admin/notes late in the day. It doesn't mention the debbugs package AFAICT. It's full of information, but a lot of it is how to manage the bug tracker. I don't know if there is anything better on how-to-fix a bug. It also ends with a warning that the database takes "well over 1Gb of space" which makes it look rather old. So, I think that the process is rather harder than it needs to be. If anyone is willing to hold-my-hand, and take me through the process of fixing a couple of bugs (not the actual bug-hunting, which I can do), I'll write the process up as a short tutorial as I did with for etc/DEBUG. This way I can use my ignorance to good purpose. Phil