From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Assignment overview (again) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 13:48:16 +0000 Message-ID: <8737u8b2sf.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87wps3r6df.fsf@gnus.org> <83si2rmyd1.fsf@gnu.org> <838u4jm1f9.fsf@gnu.org> <871t9u5jmn.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83lh822h2b.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452260923 9649 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2016 13:48:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 13:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 14:48:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXPB-0001wu-W8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:48:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35839 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXP8-00057W-71 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:48:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXP5-00057P-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:48:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXP2-0006yB-0b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:48:31 -0500 Original-Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:39337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXOt-0006xe-11; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXOr-00063R-A9; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 13:48:17 +0000 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1aHXOr-0006ow-0b; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 13:48:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:54:15 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197823 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > So, the FSF could ask at time of copyright assignment papers which > > > details people are happy with being public. > > In principle, I see nothing wrong with this. But I don't want to ask > our staff to do this extra work. They are supposed to notify the > contributor immediately when they record the signed papers, and the > contributor can report this immediately if he wants to. Sure, but at the moment, for example, if I want to bring a package into Emacs I have to contact all contributors, to check whether they have assignments. This can be cut down by checking which contributions are trivial, or no longer in the code base, but it's still creates a lot of noise. And I have no ability to check whether the contributors are actually correct in what they say (i.e. their employer disclaimer may have run out). So, to check these things, I have to mail assign@gnu. For dash.el, this involved talking to around 10 people. Other packages have many more (151 for cider for instance). My question. Are you sure this is extra work for FSF staff? It might be less. Phil