From: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Next release from master
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:28:18 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8737t1ckh9.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fidwaka.fsf@wanadoo.es>
Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
> Exactly. And developing features on `master' entirely bypasses
> the "it works" phase, and that is a recipe for disaster. A
> dangerous change should be on a branch until "it works" (*),
> then merged to see if it "works right" (**). If the developer
> recruits some volunteers to see if it "works right" for them
> before the merge, that's even better.
>
> * An honest "it works", not a "QA is boring, let others do
> that."
>
> ** Some merges should require an approval by the
> maintainer. This is no
> different from how things are done now. See the cases of the
> xwidget branch, the ffi branch...
1+
i would also like to suggest that part of the "it works" phase
should involve writing (or at least attempting to write) proper
documentation for the feature(s) involved. Yes, the "works right"
phase might well involve modifying some of that documentation, but
proper documentation is important to help people understand how
the feature is intended to work and/or be used.
Further, it seems to me that Eli is ending up having to write a
lot of documentation of other people's code, which i feel is
unfair on him. One of the many things i love about GNU Emacs is
the comprehensive documentation, which has greatly facilitated my
ability to customise it and write ELisp packages for use by
others. If GNU Emacs being "self-documenting" is a headline
feature, then documentation should be an integral part of code
development, not Somebody Else's Problem, where "Somebody" is Eli.
Alexis.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-10 3:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-12 7:09 emacs-25 merge pushed, please confirm John Wiegley
2016-01-12 11:12 ` Alex Bennée
2016-01-12 16:19 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-17 23:04 ` Next release from master Stefan Monnier
2016-01-17 23:10 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-18 9:06 ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-18 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 20:06 ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-18 20:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 21:13 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-18 21:31 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-01-18 21:43 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-18 21:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-01-18 21:51 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-18 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-18 22:18 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-19 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 17:35 ` Glenn Morris
2016-01-21 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 17:39 ` Glenn Morris
2016-02-04 20:31 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-08 15:54 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 16:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-09 14:55 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-09 15:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-09 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-09 22:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 23:42 ` Rasmus
2016-02-10 0:09 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-10 0:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 2:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 2:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 3:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 3:43 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 4:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 3:28 ` Alexis [this message]
2016-02-10 3:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 4:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 4:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 4:51 ` Alexis
2016-02-10 5:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 4:58 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 5:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 5:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 5:08 ` Alexis
2016-02-10 5:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 4:04 ` Alexis
2016-02-10 4:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 17:21 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-11 18:11 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-10 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 3:35 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-11 3:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-11 15:24 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-11 16:07 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-02-11 16:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-11 16:59 ` Teemu Likonen
2016-02-11 19:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-10 2:34 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-10 3:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 21:46 ` Rasmus
2016-02-10 16:40 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-10 17:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 16:41 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-10 17:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-10 18:06 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-11 3:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-01-22 1:01 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 1:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22 1:42 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-22 3:50 ` Xue Fuqiao
2016-01-22 1:46 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 1:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22 1:56 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 7:38 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 14:59 ` Barry Fishman
2016-01-22 17:45 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 21:27 ` Barry Fishman
2016-01-23 1:47 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-25 10:38 ` Alex Bennée
2016-01-25 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 5:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-23 17:09 ` Barry Fishman
2016-01-23 20:06 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-24 4:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-24 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-24 18:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-24 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-22 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 8:10 ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-22 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 8:58 ` Nicolas Petton
2016-01-22 9:02 ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-22 17:42 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-22 19:02 ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-22 19:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-01-22 21:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 7:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 5:25 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-11 16:28 Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-11 17:09 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-11 17:26 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-11 17:27 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-11 21:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 21:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 19:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-11 19:40 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-12 12:34 ` Richard Stallman
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