From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:47:52 +0100 Message-ID: <8737sowhon.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87mvr9wxqz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87io1xwq1e.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87vb5wvzfz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87io1wt4cc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737syoima.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871t8iu277.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87y4apfpr6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87wpq9qwia.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2m7qse0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <878u2mqhnl.fsf@wanadoo.es> <878u2jpy0t.fsf@fastmail.fm> <834md7wdtg.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0rgd94.fsf@udel.edu> <87ziuylvwi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87k2m2zkiw.fsf@mbork.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455914922 19073 80.91.229.3 (19 Feb 2016 20:48:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 20:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mark Oteiza , emacs-devel , Juri Linkov To: Elias =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=A5rtenson?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 19 21:48:37 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aWrye-000277-Us for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:48:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55255 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWrye-0008TQ-Do for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:48:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWryA-0008Ck-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWry5-00025H-U6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:48:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:47563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWry5-000247-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137A49D2005; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:47:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F5hx-1169S69; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:47:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [109.232.24.28]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BC599D2004; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:47:53 +0100 (CET) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.13; emacs 25.1.50.2 In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200246 Archived-At: On 2016-02-18, at 18:07, Elias M=C3=A5rtenson wrote: > On 18 February 2016 at 12:53, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > >> >> On 2016-02-18, at 01:11, Juri Linkov wrote: >> >> > How come char-folding is on by default in Chromium, >> > and yet nobody has a problem with that? >> >> Well, nobody has a problem with the fact that Chromium does not have >> anything like query-replace, either. >> > > If this impacts replace-string as well, then it moves from being a mere > irritant to a disaster when applied to Swedish. Imagine trying to repla= ce You misunderstood me. I didn't mean replace is or should be affected. I meant that Chromium is a tool for /consuming/ text, and Emacs is a tool for both /consuming/ and /producing/ text (in fact, also for its /editing/, which is distinct from producing: I spend quite a lot of time on editing texts (in a natural langauge) written by others). This implies that search in Emacs has more use-cases than in a web browser (think navigation in the file you are editing, for instance). And yes, in general this also means replacing, though this is irrelevant to this discussion. > Regards, > Elias Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University