From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Christopher Pinon Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Rmail: 'reply' vs 'reply-all'? 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X-Received-From: 2605:8900:1000:1001:b:0:118:9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112233 Archived-At: Christopher Pinon writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Christopher Pinon >>> >>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Rmail-Reply.html >>> >>> suggests (on my reading) that typing 'r' will add the 'CC' field to the >>> header if the incoming message contains recipients in this field. In >>> contrast, typing 'C-u r' will omit the 'CC' field entirely. >>> >>> Unfortunately, in my testing, typing 'r' (like 'C-u r') omits the 'CC' >>> field when the incoming message contains recipients in this field, and I >>> have to add this field manually if I want to have it. >> >> That's not what I see here, with Rmail: 'r' responds to the "From" >> address, and places all the addresses from "To" and "CC" (if any) in >> the "CC" field of the response. "C-u r" produces a response with a >> single address in "To", and no "CC". >> >> I wonder why this doesn't happen to you. Maybe you have some >> customizations which cause this? > > I have very few customizations to begin with, and certainly none that > redefine 'reply' functions (am using stock Emacs 25.1). No fancy stuff > whatsoever! > > I just did some further tests, sending mail to myself from other > accounts, putting multiple recipients in "CC" and/or "To". The behavior > is the same: 'r' just puts the sender into "To". :-( > > I recall experimenting with Rmail last year using Emacs 24.5, and I > witnessed the same behavior as now regarding 'r' (again, during my > tests). In fact, last year I gave up on Rmail for this reason, but now > decided to try again. > > Strange. I guess that I have to do further tests. (Otherwise I like > Rmail!) As a follow-up to myself, I would like to share what I found. During my private tests, I used three other email addresses that I have: myusername@domain1, myusername@domain2, and myusername@domain3. These are different addresses (because different domains), but 'myusername' is the same in each case. What I found is that 'r' in Rmail did not add these addresses to "CC" or "To", which is what puzzled me. As soon as I used an address of the form anotherusername@domain in "CC" or "To", 'r' in Rmail behaved as expected (i.e., as according to the manual) and added it to "CC" or "To". In sum, 'r' in Rmail appears to treat the addresses myusername@domain1, myusername@domain2, and myusername@domain3 as the same address, which is a bit unfortunate. In practice, it's not likely to be a significant issue (it was an artifact of my private tests), but it nevertheless seems a little odd for 'r' in Rmail to treat such addresses as the same. C.