From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30347: smtpmail.el doesn't retry with authentication when greylisting is used Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:45:56 +0200 Message-ID: <8736zvyopn.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <878t9o9ych.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87efjfkxkx.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523904315 23543 195.159.176.226 (16 Apr 2018 18:45:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:45:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 30347@debbugs.gnu.org To: Rainer Orth Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 16 20:45:11 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f897m-00061z-Kz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:45:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f899t-0004M0-EA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:47:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f899f-0004KK-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f899a-0005vx-P2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:48322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f899a-0005vr-Lh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f899a-0006R4-EM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30347 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30347.152390437724685 (code B ref 30347); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2018 18:46:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56218 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f898r-0006Q4-7m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:46:17 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f898o-0006Pv-FZ for 30347@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f898k-0000el-9y; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:46:12 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f898W-0007g0-NR; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:45:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87efjfkxkx.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:58:06 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145458 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > It=CA=BCs one of the ways. Some return 451 instead. Some 421. It=CA=BCs a= ll very > fuzzy :-) > > Oh, and there=CA=BCs an official 'authentication is required' code whose > value escapes me for the moment. Yeah, smtpmail just uses the "relay not permitted" codes to guess that it's supposed to try again, which aren't exactly official, either. So adding 450/451/421, too, probably won't break anything. > BTW, if emacs has credentials for the connection it=CA=BCs making, would = it > not make sense to attempt authentication before delivery? You'd think so... But this might lead to some annoyances in that people have password-protected their password store, and will now be prompted for that password even if the SMTP server doesn't require a password. If you see what I mean. :-) So I'm not sure that change would be welcomed by everybody. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no