From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:19:31 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <8736uj61f0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <20180907190135.GA9827@tuxteam.de> <20180907202847.GA12884@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536452398 10041 195.159.176.226 (9 Sep 2018 00:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 00:19:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 09 02:19:54 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fynSD-0002Wx-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2018 02:19:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fynUJ-0000re-S6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 20:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fynSw-0008SQ-FR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 20:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fynDo-0002Gk-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 20:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from pop.dreamhost.com ([64.90.62.162]:59490 helo=pdx1-sub0-mail-a34.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fynDl-0002D5-S2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 20:04:58 -0400 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AC87F3A1; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 17:04:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=rf2v+VuxTmtyQ1yIdk9aiet1QU0=; b= Lksk+hJ+OQ753MoRqwflK6zrIQy4QQdn6tmb6m9yVicVncS/zd8tOMPxgq8kXECv 85pmvsi/BmA+C9HSQWdKYnFri30oh0qceGiofxrbP5K2JnCSUKwQprJWFevisz// 3nAMIKgDEFZeO8KupZFuDMf2sPYXGq5CH5JRFUD24G0= Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m91-129-107-190.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.107.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35ED97EAB4; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 17:04:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180907202847.GA12884@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Fri, 7 Sep 2018 22:28:47 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 64.90.62.162 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229527 Archived-At: >> IMHO, this is only about that specific difference. I doubt >> that you will find meaningful alignment/correlation between >> views on that question and other views, including other views >> about editing or Emacs. > > I guess there's some alignment. I always feel awkward when > editing in a browser, for example. It reminds me fatally > of Notepad, back then. And it's not just selection handling. > > But hey, everyone swings differently. To me, delete-selection-mode is an optimization, it saves keystrokes allowing to type less - I don't need to type DEL to delete an old region before replacing it with new text. Also jumping to the previous mark is easy with C-u C-SPC when there is no need to select the region as C-x C-x does. And I never make a mistake when I see that the region is active to not replace it mistakenly.