From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Doc of keyboard macros Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:23:03 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <8736ty4s4o.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <835zyuc457.fsf@gnu.org> <834leec2s2.fsf@gnu.org> <83va6uakoi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537818073 422 195.159.176.226 (24 Sep 2018 19:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:41:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 21:41:09 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4WjE-0008SD-Il for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:41:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46721 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4WlL-0008JL-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:43:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4WiE-0005LA-DJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4WSt-0008Ge-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from pop.dreamhost.com ([64.90.62.162]:54464 helo=pdx1-sub0-mail-a31.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4WSp-0008Ep-HA; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a31.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a31.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DFA7F96E; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:24:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=Kg02kT2RQ6luXEBgSmRHYxIjk6Y=; b= YnK/HZdvS368HcUNIzK2BOOHNvxGgfvVZuTdCXZ0QFlkVRMQ4RE9obfOXJepqzxI ZhayLwNN9vEuMHIdF26CiwtLBtaEmTaOvuGUvddSs+7Ty23aFrQABC4mQaROyVp7 QlONftiSrXoCU/KBUjRHL8yZGqs4l39sBo2z2mIgiqE= Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m91-129-111-128.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.111.128]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a31.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED63D7F96C; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a31 X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a31 In-Reply-To: <83va6uakoi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 24 Sep 2018 20:07:25 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 64.90.62.162 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230040 Archived-At: > And I think we should have F3 first, because "C-x (" is deprecated, > and we are now reinstating it for the benefit of some systems that are > either rare or ones that we aren't supposed to care about too much. There is a current tendency towards deprecating F1-F10 function keys by hardware manufacturers. These keys are already hard to press by default on PC: a special additional key needs to be pressed in combination of -, and a Chromebook has no row of function keys at all: in order to get , you have to press -4.