From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what has the face `message-separator' *really* done for us? Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 13:02:33 -0700 Message-ID: <8736nl6zhi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <86a7huom0w.fsf@zoho.eu> <86sgvmmg84.fsf@zoho.eu> <86imwhli91.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="114880"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 17 21:21:25 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h5cHc-000To7-I1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 21:21:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59800 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5cHb-0005LB-Hj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:21:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39171) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5cHB-00056q-J0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:20:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5bzU-0005kY-6p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41464 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5bzT-0005kF-Rw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h5bzS-000Aj0-SL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 21:02:38 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:rYI9qI9NUxubNw2MT+ZMSowcCIs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119651 Archived-At: Damien Collard writes: > On Dim, mar 17 2019, Emanuel Berg wrote: > >> I don't have `message-header-separator'. >> But I do have `mail-header-separator' which >> seems similar in purpose and effect > > Ah, I got confused; `message-header-separator` is a leftover from an > experiment of mine... Indeed, as you say the variable is > `mail-header-separator`. > >> >> >> Its value is "---" >> Original value was >> "--text follows this line--" >> >> >> Maybe this is why why the face >> `message-separator' won't affect it? >> >> But if so, then again what *does* it affect? > > Well, it seems to only be of effect when `mail-header-separator` has its > default value "--text follows this line--". I checked, and > > - when it's the default separator, I can confirm that changing the face > `message-separator` does change the separator's color. > > - when I changed `mail-header-separator` to "---" (or anything different > from the default), the face `message-separator` doesn't apply to it > anymore! Have you tried restarting Emacs? The value of `mail-header-separator' gets written into `message-font-lock-keywords', which probably only gets updated when message.el is loaded for the first time. Eric