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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34035: 26.1; Arabic shadda-kasrah renders incorrectly Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 01:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87364i9lov.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87y37sv38f.fsf@nexoid.at> <83zhs8gx50.fsf@gnu.org> <878seb12v1.fsf@tcd.ie> <83ft8iemek.fsf@gnu.org> <87zh6qsj6r.fsf@tcd.ie> <83tuwyd0h4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4998"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 34035-done@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, craven@gmx.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 03:02:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8Yy4-0001CS-JK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 03:02:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40210 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8Yy3-0001Te-Hd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8Yvz-0007O0-DT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:00:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8Yvz-0007QA-10 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:00:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8Yvy-0006mp-W6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 21:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" >> Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 34035@debbugs.gnu.org, craven@gmx.net >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:18:36 +0100 >>=20 >> Emacs and hb-view seem to be in agreement: > > Thanks. I posted a question to the HarfBuzz list; you can follow it > at > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/harfbuzz/2020-August/007540.html Thanks. So far the consensus there seems to be that this is intended and not wrong: Richard Wordingham writes: > There is no evidence of a fault. The TUS claims that > kesra between shadda and the consonant came in with metal type. > Basically, there are two different styles, one with kesra below the > consonant and one with it below the shadda. I don't have details of > what is preferred where, or its social stratification. > > Wright (available at www.ghazali.org/arabic/WrightArabicGrammarVol1.pdf > ), in =C2=A711 Remark (e) =C9=A1ives a slightly different story and some = attempt > at an indication of regional variation. Jonathan Kew writes: > Yes; how the combination renders is up to the font. > > Some fonts even provide a user-selectable feature to control it, e.g.=20 > https://software.sil.org/scheherazade/support/smart-font-features/. I'm therefore closing this report. --=20 Basil