From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Has eval-and-compile changed in emacs 27? Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 16:06:45 +0100 Message-ID: <8735xk5gqi.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83sg5kry4x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33485"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Leo Liu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 25 16:07:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lFIF4-0008Yd-Qf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 16:07:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40974 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFIF3-0005t6-Sz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:07:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFIED-0004z9-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:06:57 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:44286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lFIEC-0003qp-0U; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:06:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ONj+UvkeKZxmfiCIggVBDXtzB/oUPV7FElHdYhJiDEs=; b=kwVWIkEfZmIh2PGY82aQJcbVkC 9SRZFXXd9TqzXmUbLt5XiNYNki0VMW2MfEUZNi8gfR1QCUNl7BEP8uD2EbglC3wAWQlC3J1Nhe7vG fHJbWKkt0n2VRyRI5fg78nTqgoHzZXCkzaWDKLrDm7xs5CrC0wj/4RaLw94buoAMbHi8=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lFIE3-0000d2-5e; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 16:06:51 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEWsWEigk2I7Jh7/ ///Ow/J8AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UCGQ8FOm2rAS4AAAFvSURBVCjPXdKxSsRAEAbg PyER2SpKFvQqFYUjTxFBQayi3FhYWecpcodapIqFjdUqQTb/Uzq7uUMxRcKXmcnO7AYoUbHDfFmR NsA4hQQ4JPRJPcNr6nQR0q5bMu05+W0NDfX6h3e5q8gqoAPp5VZvQOXA/kXuuemk1gXIF1mRa6nP ZojhgcQ0H5EoPHpnZWV8Io1GDp02VPlcmtAhGtg37+RJscZlubrzsGGINaxtLrvjKzHPOEcu98mQ p6XiVOd7SIYihemwrGEfUoeISqe42rhkr1O0QJ69urwojDbewZZ7Y6n7g5BpmwXLLKDVJuqFjlxo daszpgHPYVgir8MGVyx0uCFpdINlyVFfjBHIqkkjE8AI6pNaorPARHTff8BJYZESfYQfcJLuIt9D 5nZoP0YsEeDJx37CzQynn570jCN8wDiDXDAuNOMInJ52OPnip3boEc5Wi5zfRjZc/kLPlV/7SLcR w8xvoX9LiBv+AJmh1aT6MaJrAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAyLTI1VDE1OjA1OjU4 KzAwOjAw3GOQMAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMi0yNVQxNTowNTo1OCswMDowMK0+ KIwAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Casino Music's _Jungle Love_: "C'est Extraordinaire" In-Reply-To: <83sg5kry4x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 25 Feb 2021 16:59:58 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265620 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > eval-and-compile doesn't make sure the function is known at run time, > it only makes sure it is known at compile time. That's `eval-when-compile', surely... `eval-and-compile' also evaluates at load time. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no