From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56459: 29.0.50; Edebug disables Eldoc Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2022 11:58:17 +0200 Message-ID: <8735ef2chy.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87zghieol4.fsf@gmail.com> <871qurzzyv.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmibzx0k.fsf@gnu.org> <20220731195223.90596.FMU217810@trabanten-schwein.prv.splode.com> <87sfmg1bpf.fsf@gnus.org> <20220801175108.23591.FMU1943@gedanken-donuts.prv.splode.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39631"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: max.brieiev@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, 56459@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noah Friedman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 02 12:12:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oIotS-000A5u-5D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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(But >>moving the cursor after stepping triggers eldoc, but that seems fine.) > > That seems right to me too, so I'd vote for removing it. So I've now done that in Emacs 29. > This also serves as a useful reminder to me that I ought to do a better job > describing interaction problems in the first place, because I am not likely > to remember the details 22 years later! Yeah, it's hard to remember to put the rationale behind a change into the change log because my brain often goes "well, it's self evident why!" and then 20 years later, it's not...