From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Bernoulli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59005: 29.0.50; Package transient installed as dependency despite it being built-in Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:38:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87357dd1rn.fsf@bernoul.li> References: <87iljvkdnp.fsf@miha-pc> <871qprm7j7.fsf@bernoul.li> <87sfi5lrzx.fsf@bernoul.li> <87357e1erf.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20759"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59005@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , miha@kamnitnik.top To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 10 15:39:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUYW-0005D5-Nm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:39:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUYK-00086u-BR; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:39:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUYI-00085w-65 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUYH-00025b-U9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUYH-0005To-Pt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:39:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jonas Bernoulli Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59005 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59005-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59005.167603989521010 (code B ref 59005); Fri, 10 Feb 2023 14:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59005) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2023 14:38:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUXX-0005So-Co for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:38:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([212.243.197.30]:34758) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pQUXT-0005Sc-6H for 59005@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:38:14 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AED5164B2; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:38:07 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bernoul.li; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received :received; s=sel2011a; t=1676039887; bh=7okSstWVheVpKiavVaZgq0CX RQCUidBh6JNmfClUT9k=; b=gAgZK7Pbpv7NBJo/7rGyYeypiXgZ+Sj5ObfMO/p2 2H03jj8+BXLdRtok7u5ek8KNV7Q3S2zoZT+6dAK2uJN/QNlapyscWKiqAGmezuHe tA/zv7IARwUIlcoxzltxOdIa6j1LYf8cIgk9T/e6pKHFstpUI7MrWphFvdqprZ/H VlM= X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail0.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10224) with ESMTP id 7x4WQ66m0ETQ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:38:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D3411654C; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:38:07 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87357e1erf.fsf@web.de> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255287 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Jonas Bernoulli writes: > >> That is indeed the case. The issue was triggered by a change to >> elpa-admin.el, the addition of version checks, which takes pre-releases. >> into account. > > By chance, could there be a relation of this to my bug#59652? Dunno why > that one does not get any attention, it seems not that minor to me. No, I changed the "suffix" from "-git" to ".50-git", using both the emacs specific not-a-release ".50" suffix and the "-git" suffix, whose meaning apparently is up for discussion. Using both suffixes works for me, because all my version strings used for releases always have exactly three parts, M.m.p. I can use ".50" as the forth part for non-releases, because I know I will never tack on a forth part ".0" when creating a release. 1.2.3-git (*) < 1.2.3 = 1.2.3.0 (*) < 1.2.3.50-git < 1.2.4 (*) not used by me [ Off-topic, but unlike version< et al., my vcomp.el, supports both pre and patch releases: 1.2.3pre1 < 1.2.3 < 1.2.3-patch1 The patch part can also be something like "-git" or "-1"; the dash is key. The latter means it supports the "Debian package version number format". https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/dpkg-dev/deb-version.5.en.html. ] > I ask because "transient" rings a bell (it is also a package that is > often related to trouble in my scenario). What kind of trouble? Packaging trouble I assume.