From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: editing a PDF [Re: emacs 30.5.0 editing epub] Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:28:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87355pxghe.fsf@web.de> References: <877cvhqo9p.fsf@web.de> <4a7a0baf-677b-118c-fa6c-e50d054800e7@posteo.de> <87o7osp4ck.fsf@web.de> <704a63ef-c56d-f892-1e3f-9ee0f884b038@mousecar.com> <87y1nsmgwz.fsf@web.de> <0e6c9b8a-b70f-d244-c031-68c0c58dca86@mousecar.com> <77a3b68b-a9f1-f8e7-176c-d929c85eb472@uni-koeln.de> <31dffcc9-bda2-b340-a09c-fe3d3a1b3a40@mousecar.com> <57456f0e-5e5e-42d3-6e33-2cdd10d974c5@uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1168"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ulrich Deiters Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 28 13:29:04 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ph7Vf-000AWh-A7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143137 Archived-At: Ulrich Deiters writes: > (1) One composes the text using a language that contains formatting > commands. The best open-source choice is LaTeX. LaTeX code is human- > readable and can be edited with emacs; in fact, emacs has a LaTeX > mode. There are also free programs that assist writing LaTeX code, > or which let one compose XML code, which is then translated into LaTeX. Let me add: also org-mode can export to pdf. If it should be LaTex and you don't want to write code yourself, even not in Emacs with the really good AUCtex package, there are things like lyx: https://www.lyx.org/ - hybrid latex "editors" that mostly feel like using text processing in LibreOffice (mostly WYSIWYG). It's a good compromise. Org is even simpler. It's not LaTex but still allows to use LaTeX snippets (e.g. for mathematical stuff) that will be integrated in the exported document (be it ps, pdf or html). Michael.