From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Date: Thu, 04 May 2023 18:37:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87354ccat0.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87bkj1ar9n.fsf@yahoo.com> <7e6334ce-c9a3-2c58-d263-fa962f0c2f7d@web.de> <877ctocfpq.fsf@telefonica.net> <831qjwkrkt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:yqYKgJQTZ0xFyA5TM6jcoU28txM= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 04 19:27:43 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1puck0-0003h6-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 19:27:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pucjH-0004fD-SY; Thu, 04 May 2023 13:26:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pubxf-0002rJ-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 12:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pubxc-0003FT-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 12:37:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pubxa-0006PA-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 18:37:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 May 2023 13:24:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305836 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > So let's please not use the term "minimize". Thanks. >> >> What's wrong with saying "iconified or minimized"? >> >> IIRC a few years ago there was on this list some acknowledgment of the >> problems posed by using obsolete terminology in Emacs and some actions >> were discussed to converge to modern wording up to some extent. >> >> Rejecting "___ or minimized" on the docs only works nowadays if the goal >> is obfuscating things. > > We don't reject it. Please, both of you, make a point of actually > looking at our manuals before starting argument about problems that > don't exist. This is a tempest in a teapot. I know *we* don't reject it, but the patch submitter was told otherwise in an official tone. I'm glad that the issue has been clarified. Also, I hope that in the future we double-check the project's policies before stating to contributors (actual and potential) what's the acceptable way of doing things here.