From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ? Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 02:11:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87353ndhzg.fsf@web.de> References: <0e037ca2-517d-3b52-2187-a7bba7956fbd@starynkevitch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30830"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:eSQJkCQ2fbba/N8OxxfZKkhLkzc= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 23 02:12:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q1Fdg-0007qn-BB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 May 2023 02:12:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q1Fcz-0000Vy-9D; Mon, 22 May 2023 20:11:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q1Fcv-0000Vh-FQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2023 20:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q1Fct-00067W-Vw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2023 20:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q1Fcp-0006wa-Ui for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2023 02:11:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143706 Archived-At: Basile Starynkevitch writes: > If you need more theory about compilation of Lisp and ML like > languages, read Appel's book on /Compiling with Continuations/. > > Of course I recommend downloading the latest GNU emacs snapshot source > tarball and compiling it. I am doing so every day! Honestly: this doesn't seem appropriate to me as a start. The book seems to advanced if you want an introduction into Elisp...that's specialist literature, it might be a very good book, but probably not to learn how to go the first steps in Elisp. And also not the further steps in Emacs. And the second tip just adds even more barriers at this beginner level. It might be fun and exciting to use the newest sources, but this is definitely not related to learning Emacs - it's distracting and unnecessary unless you are very excited and have a lot of time. One can do this later or. It's not good to advice people to do this - especially beginners. Michael.