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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b92c603133f4c54206dccccd64fd01c1; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 00:19:55 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2023 15:08:15 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21638 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307536 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller writes: >>>>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023, Po Lu wrote: > >> I disagree. UTF-7, UTF-8 and UTF-16 both encode the same coded >> character set (or at least the BMP of the same character set.) That's a >> far cry from there being ``nothing in common''. > > This argument applies only to UTF-8 and UTF-16. > > OTOH, UTF-7 isn't part of the Unicode standard. Also, it cannot encode > all of Unicode but only the first 65536 code points [1]. As I said, the BMP of the same character set.