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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Navigating completions from minibuffer
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 02:58:03 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734x1ku6o.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86cyw5sjuk.fsf@mail.linkov.net>

Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>>>> It sets completions-auto-update to 'deselect by default, which I think
>>>> is reasonable?
>>>
>>> Isn't deselection needed only when minibuffer-visible-completions is enabled?
>>
>> I think we could provide some nice consistency by making it always
>> active.
>>
>> As part of this change, I think we should make sure M-RET will submit a
>> completion candidate even if it's been "deselected".  That would be nice
>> because then M-RET serves a useful purpose with
>> minibuffer-visible-completions=t: you can submit the previously-selected
>> completion candidate even if you've typed (causing deselection) since
>> selecting it.
>>
>> With that M-RET behavior, completions-auto-update='deselect doesn't
>> change behavior from Emacs 29, so I think it's a plausible default.
>
> Please note that currently there is no need to use M-RET by default
> because the default value of minibuffer-completion-auto-choose is t,
> and M-down inserts the candidate that is accepted by RET.
>
> So M-RET could help only in case of minibuffer-visible-completions=t
> when the editing deselected a completion candidate.

That is true.  But M-RET is still important for completion-in-region.

In any case, deselecting by default doesn't change behavior for any of:
- completion-in-region
- minibuffer completion with minibuffer-completion-auto-choose=t
- minibuffer completion with minibuffer-completion-auto-choose=nil

So I think deselecting by default is a backwards-compatible change.

>> And if we do have completions-auto-update='deselect by default, then
>> perhaps we can consider another change to the defaults: make RET always
>> submit the selected completion candidate.  That would actually change
>> behavior, since M-<down> followed *immediately* by RET would submit the
>> selected completion candidate, but maybe it's worth it?
>
> I doubt that any change of the default behavior would be acceptable.

Well, M-<down>/M-<up> have only been present in one version of Emacs, so
a change to their default behavior, which supports an opt-out, seems
possible if it's a real improvement.  But anyway, this is better to
discuss once we've settled on the design of the deselection behavior.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-20  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-07  3:57 Navigating completions from minibuffer T.V Raman
2023-11-07  4:55 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-07  7:20   ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-07 17:53     ` T.V Raman
2023-11-07 19:36       ` T.V Raman
2023-11-08  7:39         ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-08 16:21           ` T.V Raman
2023-11-08 17:18             ` T.V Raman
2023-11-08 22:11               ` Slow completion-at-point was " T.V Raman
2023-11-09  7:22                 ` Slow completion-at-point Juri Linkov
2023-11-09 12:10                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-09 16:20                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-09 18:32                       ` João Távora
2023-11-11  2:48                     ` T.V Raman
2023-11-11 10:36                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-11 16:40                         ` T.V Raman
2023-11-11 19:00                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-11 19:43                             ` T.V Raman
2023-11-11 21:50                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-09 15:39                   ` T.V Raman
2023-11-09 12:20                 ` Slow completion-at-point was Re: Navigating completions from minibuffer Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-09 15:41                   ` T.V Raman
2023-11-09 17:46                 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-10 13:12           ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-11 18:58             ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-14  7:36               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-15 21:40                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-16 17:15                   ` T.V Raman
2023-11-15 22:03                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-16  7:16                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-16 14:41                     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-16 17:28                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-16 18:25                         ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-17  7:09                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-17 17:22                             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-18 20:58                               ` sbaugh
2023-11-19  7:08                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-19  8:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:41                                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-19 18:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-19 19:41                                       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20  2:58                                       ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2023-11-23 13:39                                     ` sbaugh
2023-11-24  7:54                                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-25 15:19                                         ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-25 16:08                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 18:23                                             ` sbaugh
2023-11-25 18:48                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-26 13:10                                                 ` sbaugh
2023-11-25 19:00                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 17:46                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-26 14:33                                             ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-27  7:22                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-28 14:48                                                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-28 17:23                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-29  0:20                                                     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-12-03 17:21                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-03 18:13                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-06 17:20                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-06 17:50                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-07  7:44                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-08  8:46                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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