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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID aea10c710d36b8a5dda77cf0d6d4d57e; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 13:28:18 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2024 14:25:51 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic313-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321019 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > People screaming "backward compatibility" for each and every reason ^^^^^^ > can indeed be a problem. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this what it comes down to? That certain people, by implication, Emacs users, are potentially problems? I would be exceedingly careful where I take this discussion from hence.