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From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how to speed up Lisp devel time
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 00:17:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734nd2vff.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: trinity-ef12f20a-ffe9-43a9-a077-1011c9a0b458-1723229658962@3c-app-mailcom-bs13

Christopher Dimech wrote:

> This complexity is not inherently negative, and there are
> compelling reasons to embrace it in certain situations.
> Commands with multiple optional arguments offer
> greater flexibility.

Eh, three arguments with default values, "this complexity"?

Actually, because of the Elisp limitation that optional
arguments must be last, in sequence, there are many functions
with three - or more - optional arguments.

If this is news to you:

 - there are 2058 hits for '&optional .* .* .*' in the
   Emacs source,

- 194 seems to be interactive.

Yeah, these commands are imperfect by definition but it is
clear there are many, many such cases of Elisp, not the least
in the Emacs core source.

~/src/emacs $ grep '&optional .* .* .*' **/*.el | wc -l
2058

~/serc/emacs $ grep -A 3 '&optional .* .*' **/*.el | grep '(interactive' | wc -l
194

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-09 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-09  7:16 how to speed up Lisp devel time Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09  7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09  7:39   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 10:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 11:18       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 12:02         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 13:54           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 14:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 16:03               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 16:16                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 17:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 18:56                     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-09 21:57                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 21:47                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 17:27                 ` Yuri Khan
2024-08-09 21:21                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  2:14                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  6:01                     ` Yuri Khan
2024-08-10  6:08                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  6:44                         ` Yuri Khan
2024-08-10  7:22                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  7:51                             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  4:32                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10  5:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 14:59             ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-08-09 16:19               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 18:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 18:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-09 22:17                     ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2024-08-09 22:00                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09  8:24   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 10:36     ` Christopher Dimech

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