From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add seq-shuffle
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 03:27:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734lxpx7o.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87a5g62kkh.fsf@posteo.net
Philip Kaludercic wrote:
>> That's a neat and concise solution. It seems to produce
>> a decently random sorting, but I'd guess that it may not
>> perform well for large sequences. For example:
>>
>> (let (comparisons)
>> (list :result (seq-sort (lambda (a b)
>> (push (cons a b) comparisons)
>> (zerop (random 2)))
>> (number-sequence 0 10))
>> :num-comparisons (length comparisons)))
>> ;; (:result (6 0 9 1 5 10 8 2 7 3 4) :num-comparisons 26)
>>
>> In testing that expression repeatedly, I see that the
>> number of comparisons varies between about 23 and 26.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing it out, though. It's good to know that
>> it exists and in what circumstances it could be useful.
>
> IIRC the approach is related to the "Naive method" mentioned
> on Wikipedia [0]. I think that this variation of your code
> demonstrates that not all elements are considered equally
> often:
>
> (let ((comparisons '()))
> (list :result
> (seq-sort (lambda (a b)
> (cl-incf (alist-get a comparisons 0))
> (cl-incf (alist-get b comparisons 0))
> (zerop (random 2)))
> (number-sequence 0 10))
> :num-comparisons
> (seq-sort (lambda (x y)
> (< (cdr x) (cdr y)))
> comparisons)))
> ;; (:result
> ;; (9 0 1 7 4 10 5 6 8 3 2)
> ;; :num-comparisons
> ;; ((0 . 2) (10 . 3) (8 . 3) (9 . 4) (7 . 4) (6 . 4) (4 . 5) (2 . 5) (3 . 7) (1 . 7) (5 . 8)))
I think it is as random as `random', as for the exact
execution of the algorithm one should examine 'seq-sort'.
Natural thing would just be to go from one end to the other,
but maybe they do some optimizations.
> While acceptable as a personal hack
Very generous of you, noble sir!
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-18 1:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-14 7:48 Add seq-shuffle Hugo Thunnissen
2024-09-14 8:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-16 5:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-16 19:17 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-17 4:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-17 18:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-17 22:26 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-18 1:27 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2024-09-17 18:53 ` Yuri Khan
2024-09-15 1:44 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-15 6:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 6:45 ` Adam Porter
2024-09-15 11:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-15 7:48 ` Hugo Thunnissen
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