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From: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>
To: chad <yandros@gmail.com>
Cc: "Suhail Singh" <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>,
	"Philip Kaludercic" <philipk@posteo.net>,
	"Martin Edström" <meedstrom@runbox.eu>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Tony Zorman" <tonyzorman@mailbox.org>
Subject: Re: Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 10:27:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734ltaxpz.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO2hHWZnMH8AobAwqZZvCim31d-TE_KSqK2ObpmfQkuD5rxuMA@mail.gmail.com> (chad's message of "Sat, 21 Sep 2024 03:06:22 -0400")

chad <yandros@gmail.com> writes:

> Isn't melpa-stable still considered harmful/to-be-avoided? That was my
> understanding
> years ago, and a quick web-search suggests that it's still basically true.

The utility of melpa-stable depends on a package maintainer's diligence.
Consider the casual suite.  It is available on melpa-stable and the
author takes care to make meaningful releases.  As a user, using
melpa-stable for those packages has utility.

The fact that a large number of authors / maintainers of melpa packages
don't show a similar level of care for their users is certainly
unfortunate.  However, that's not the fault of melpa-stable.

One might argue that melpa-stable's use of a versioning mechanism that
deviates from that of GNU and NonGNU ELPA is problematic.  I agree with
that.  However, that's not the argument being made when people label
melpa-stable as "harmful".

In any case, as long as a package author is making regular tagged
releases melpa-stable is no worse than melpa.  In fact, it has some
utility over melpa in that it presents version numbers that are suitable
for use by the package manager.

-- 
Suhail



  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-21 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-14 12:09 Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest Martin Edström
2024-09-19 11:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 18:50   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 20:11     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 20:31       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20  6:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 15:14           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 16:56               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 17:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 20:43               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21  7:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 14:31                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 15:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 15:43                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 21:02       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-20 20:34         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 23:38           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21  7:06             ` chad
2024-09-21 14:27               ` Suhail Singh [this message]
2024-09-21 15:59             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 19:04               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-22 15:30                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-22 20:08                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 12:06                     ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 13:15                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 12:07                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 15:15                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 20:11                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 20:48                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-29  2:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-29  7:25                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-29 13:55                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-26 23:23                     ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27  0:17                       ` Adam Porter
2024-09-27  0:33                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-27  6:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-29 14:22                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-29 14:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20  4:57   ` Tony Zorman
2024-09-20 19:37     ` Martin Edström
2024-09-20 21:05       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 14:44     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 14:58       ` Tony Zorman
2024-09-21 15:10       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21 16:09         ` Philip Kaludercic
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-15 17:38 Martin Edström
2024-09-15 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 19:46   ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-16 11:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 15:24       ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 16:15       ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 17:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 14:30           ` Martin Edström
2024-09-15 19:52 Martin Edström
2024-09-15 20:41 ` chad
2024-09-15 21:09   ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-15 22:12     ` chad
2024-09-15 23:51       ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-16 11:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 16:46       ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 18:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 20:16       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-17 11:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  3:38           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19  6:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 12:08               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 12:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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