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Does it mean you have set auth-sources to nil? > > No, I haven't done any particular setup, I just don't (intentionally) > use any password-saving features in Emacs. > >> There is a possible error indeed in tramp-read-passwd for this >> case. Could you, please, apply the appended patch? > > Just to confirm, do you still want me to do this even though I don't set > auth-sources to nil? No, not needed for you. But since this case is missing in tramp-read-passwd, I'll apply this patch anyway. auth-sources has the initial value '("~/.authinfo" "~/.authinfo.gpg" "~/.netrc") Do you own one of these files? >> I have no idea where the changed behavior you've described comes from. > > Okay -- I'll investigate further, including from 'emacs -q'. It might be helpful to step through tramp-read-passwd with the debugger. Another idea: if auth-sources doesn't cooperate due to lack of useful data, Tramp uses password-cache.el as fallback. password-cache-expiry has the default value of 16 seconds. Could this explain what you see? Best regards, Michael.