From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: describe-mode should first summarize all modes in effect Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:27:00 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <871xtv6zt7.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <3F6F155C.4010606@yahoo.com> <3F7301EF.5030701@yahoo.com> <3F786796.4060103@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065134342 11825 80.91.224.253 (2 Oct 2003 22:39:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 03 00:39:01 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5C68-00074C-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:39:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5C58-0000Ja-Tc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5C4g-00009Q-0m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:37:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5C48-0008Cp-Uc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [204.74.68.40] (helo=frodo.hserus.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1A5C48-00089m-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:36:56 -0400 Original-Received: from tc218-187-78-170.2-4.pl.apol.com.tw ([218.187.78.170]:34613 helo=jidanni.org) by frodo.hserus.net with asmtp (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.24 #0) id 1A5C3y-000AIG-5V by authid with plain for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:06:47 +0530 Original-Received: from jidanni by jidanni.org with local (Exim 4.22) id 1A5BuW-0000qp-8s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:27:00 +0800 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <3F786796.4060103@yahoo.com> (Kevin Rodgers's message of "Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:10:46 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:5900 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:5900 >> Better yet, have describe-mode output Kevin's list at the top of its >> output, before getting mired in detail. K> I don't think that's necessary. Everything is explained in the "Mode K> Line" and "Minor Modes" sections of the Emacs manual. dusty manual can tell one what SC MML MC-w Fly ... expand to? K> And `C-h m' already lists each minor mode indicator: K> | The major mode is described first. K> | For minor modes, see following pages. _pages_... scattered miles and miles later, ^L or no ^L. Why not summarize first? RMS sent a probable improvement, but not to this list.