From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: loading site start before .emacs Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:15:17 +1000 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <871xlidrkq.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> References: Reply-To: timx@spamto.devnul.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084871962 28618 80.91.224.253 (18 May 2004 09:19:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 18 11:19:09 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQ0kc-0004cs-00 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 11:19:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQ0iY-0000o1-Ns for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 05:16:58 -0400 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:r3z9lQDdJ0kNgbjUZPLVrz7pL2E= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp103-119.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net Original-X-Trace: duster.adelaide.on.net 1084871707 150.101.103.119 (18 May 2004 18:45:07 +0950) Original-Lines: 59 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!lotsanews.com!newsfeed1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net!duster.adelaide.on.net!not-for-mail Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:123256 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:18551 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:18551 >>>>> "David" == David Kastrup writes: David> Micha Feigin writes: >> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:08:46AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Micha Feigin writes: >> > >> > > Is it possible (and are there any issues) to make the site >> startup > > files load before .emacs? >> > > >> > > the desktop package seems to have problems with a lot of >> things if they > > are not being loaded before desktop-read is >> called (I had issues with > > ecp and now with preview-latex). >> > >> > What issues? preview-latex should work fine with desktop as >> long as > the respective autoloads for AUCTeX (in tex-site.el) and >> > preview-latex have already been defined. This is not about >> _loading_ > those packages, but about providing the necessary load >> information > when desktop-read decides to call upon them. >> > >> >> preview-latex is loaded automatically by the site file, so when I >> open new latex files it is available. David> Obviously false. preview-latex might be added into the David> load-path by your site file, but that appears to be about it. >> When using desktop, unless I add (load "preview-latex") before >> desktop-read then preview latex is not available for latex files >> opened by desktop for some reason. David> (load "preview-latex") does not load preview-latex. Take a David> look at that file's contents. It merely defines the autoloads David> for preview-latex so that any references to preview-latex David> functions will then cause preview-latex to be loaded. In David> addition, it enters the preview-latex setup function into David> LaTeX-mode-hook. David> In short: preview-latex is most certainly not loaded, and not David> even initialized, automatically by the site file as you claim. I think some further evidence that the OP may be on the wrong track is that according to the emacs info pages, the site-startup.el file is loaded BEFORE the users .emacs file ,---- From The Init File, `~/.emacs' Info Node | Your site may also have a "site startup file"; this is named | `site-start.el', if it exists. Like `default.el', Emacs finds this | file via the standard search path for Lisp libraries. Emacs loads this | library before it loads your init file. To inhibit loading of this | library, use the option `-no-site-file'. *Note Initial Options::. `---- Tim -- Tim Cross The e-mail address on this message is FALSE (obviously!). My real e-mail is to a company in Australia called rapttech and my login is tcross - if you really need to send mail, you should be able to work it out!