From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Petersen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: utf text console - control-g does not work any longer Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:27:44 +0200 Organization: just testing Gnus... Message-ID: <871x89r4jz.fsf@pp.ppetersen-usenet76543.de> References: <8764xplc13.fsf@pp.ppetersen-usenet76543.de> <87vf5mlinp.fsf@pp.ppetersen-usenet76543.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1116099268 32439 80.91.229.2 (14 May 2005 19:34:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 19:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 14 21:34:23 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DX2Os-0004G2-4Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:34:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DX2QY-0000Py-9I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:35:58 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FixIMzVLOLa5Cg7/629VCOV1RVc= Original-Lines: 63 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 May 2005 21:27:43 MEST Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 33efd786.newsread2.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC=VaFdb@F65`aUWaeE\nHN0lQ5U85hF6f; djW\KbG]kaMh6=9@_^ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:26599 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:26599 * "Eli Zaretskii" schrieb: >> >> I launch Gnus like this: >> > >> >> LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 exec filterm - dynafont emacs -nw --eval >> >> "(set-keyboard-coding-system 'latin-9)" -f gnus-unplugged "$@" > > Can you explain why you need filterm at all? If it's because your > terminal cannot display certain characters, you could fix that with an > appropriate setting of terminal encoding (try "C-x RET t"). E.g., if your > terminal can display latin-9 characters, the "C-x RET t latin-9 RET" > should do what I think you want. Well, I need filterm to have an unicode enabled virtual text console. Without filterm I am still able to read AND type special national characters (like German or Scandinavian äöü). Without filterm there is NO problem with iso-8859-1 or iso-8859-15 for me! BUT (without using filterm and its filter "dynafont"): If someone posts in utf-8 I am not able to see all the special characters AND I am not able to reply to such a post without having my reply look totally fucked up (as to the special characters that I may have in the quotation of the utf-8 poster). All this happens with Emacs in a virtual text console. It is NO issue when using Emacs in the X Window environment (either by using the graphical Emacs OR by running "emacs -nw" in an utf enabled terminal program, like uxterm or gnome-terminal)! Could you (or other people) please take part in a quick test: Here is a message-id of an utf poster (it's from a thread about ugly fonts in gnu.emacs.gnus): <16949.42398.937556.799591@parhasard.net> Here is another example (this time posted by ME): <8764z0hq89.fsf_-_@pp.ppetersen-usenet76543.de> Regarding the first message-id (see above): Do you really see all the special characters, especially: are the apostrophes correct? What about the text in the signature of that poster? And please, do the test from a virtual text console, not from within X. Thanks. Of course, this all looks like a minor problem, since most posts are NOT in utf-8, but anyway: I would be dissatisfied if a console version of Emacs/Gnus was unable to display utf-8 all right (in contrast to windows newsreaders like Forte Agent that always display these encodings perfectly). Regards Peter(sen)