From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: All widgets except the scroll bar uses GTK? Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:18:59 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <871wqmp3oc.fsf@hans.local.net> References: <1157191803.574419.81400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <85mz9iwkk7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8764fzzmeh.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157796790 9463 80.91.229.2 (9 Sep 2006 10:13:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 09 12:13:09 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLzpk-0006pG-Bz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:13:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLzpj-0004uG-C6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GLzpW-0004qm-DS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GLzpT-0004h7-CO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLzpT-0004gs-9U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.183] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GLzqD-0005BM-Qg; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:13:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.55.251] (helo=duenenhof-wilhelm.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1GLzpM28hK-0004VC; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:12:44 +0200 Original-Received: by duenenhof-wilhelm.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C4714356C; Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:18:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <8764fzzmeh.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Fri\, 08 Sep 2006 01\:12\:06 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:d7ab225b98a136e1c2910381f940ecb9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37242 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Dieter Wilhelm writes: >> Maybe I only know GTK scroll bars (under Emacs), could you please >> explain how to switch between the directions without moving the mouse? > > Right-click click scrolls forward, left-click scrolls backward. The > middle button usually is used for handle dragging etc. > > Clicks work anywhere in the scrollbar, not only in the "trough" areas; > the direction to scroll is determined soley by which button you > pick. I only knew the toolkit scroll bars and couldn't play around. > >>> you can't scroll through a complete file without needing to reseat the >>> mouse in between, you can't control the scroll amount). >> >> You mean that one can more precisely control the amount of scrolling >> with respect to how far on clicks away from the tool bar handle? > > No, because L/R clicking totally ignores the "handle" position; it uses > the distance from the top of the scrollbar to determine the amount to > scroll. In some implementations (I don't know if Emacs is one) > scrolling autorepeats if you hold down the button, and you can vary the > scroll speed in real time just by moving the mouse up and down in the > scrollbar. > > It's a _lot_ more ergonomic, and much more precise, than the mac/windows > method of scrolling once you get used to it, though I guess it's not > well suited to a one-button mouse... :-) Yeees, I'd guess so 8-). Thanks for the explanation though David did it also and as he predicted I had to give the configure option --without-toolkit-scroll-bars to check your hints. -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany