From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Emacs 22.1 Debian packages Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:46:38 -0400 Message-ID: <871wgoyfo1.fsf_-_@stupidchicken.com> References: <87ps49t08e.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87tztk3kyv.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181162882 30404 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2007 20:48:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Romain Francoise To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 06 22:47:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hw2Q8-0008Oh-Dr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:47:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw2Q6-0002vJ-CE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:47:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw2P4-00028U-Aj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:46:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw2P3-00026y-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw2P3-00026e-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hw2P2-0000ke-Vl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6445B4E50B; Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:46:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87tztk3kyv.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> (Romain Francoise's message of "Wed\, 06 Jun 2007 22\:07\:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72370 Archived-At: There is currently no Debian package for Emacs 22.1 usable on the stable distribution (etch) or oldstable distribution (sarge) of Debian. There are emacs22 packages in Debian experimental, which will eventually make their way into Debian unstable and hence to Debian testing, but these will never be usable with etch. Also, the Debian maintainer has separated the Emacs documentation into a "non-dfsg" package due to the revent Debian controversy over the GFDL, so getting the Emacs documentation now requires fussing with the Debian "non-free" repositories. Due to these two factors, I think there is a demand for Emacs 22.1 debs targetting Debian stable. For the last year or so, Romain Francoise has been packaging an emacs-snapshot Debian package that tracks Emacs CVS; in the wake of the Debian GFDL stuff, these packages were moved from the Debian repositories to Romain's personal site, http://emacs.orebokech.com/. What do people think about making emacs22 debs based on Romain's emacs-snapshot packages? Its packaging is completely different from the one used by the official Debian emacs22 packages in experimental, but works fine. It includes all the manuals. I have already asked Romain. He is agreeable to this idea with this proviso: > there's an issue with the Debian emacs system: most add-on packages > in sarge/etch support the 'emacs21' and 'emacs-snapshot' flavors, > but not the 'emacs22' flavor. As a result, the add-on packages will > probably not get byte-compiled when the emacs22 packages are > installed, and some will declare themselves as installed but will > run uncompiled (which is a problem for, say, Semantic). If we get this working, we could put the debs on Romain's site and link to them from the Emacs homepage. Alternatively, we can put the debs on ftp.gnu.org. I know we don't usually offer binaries, but I'd argue that it is justifiable in this case. Many free software packages offer binaries in the form of .rpms and .debs, and I don't think there's any reason in principle why we shouldn't, especially in this case where Romain has already done most of the heavy lifting. What do people think?