From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mode-line with Tramp Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:51:49 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <871wevh77a.fsf@jurta.org> References: <18065.63231.612402.142669@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87k5t88258.fsf@gmx.de> <18068.35413.238789.960586@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <878x9m6825.fsf@gmx.de> <18069.23173.327298.566469@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18070.44458.968610.559681@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87myxyhvku.fsf@gmx.de> <18075.64647.459220.644967@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18077.53954.67784.465789@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18079.62390.365307.553494@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87zm1po90p.fsf@jurta.org> <18083.59240.112646.133966@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87vecaga2m.fsf@jurta.org> <18085.12231.399875.927290@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18087.52783.900714.744392@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185441069 9892 80.91.229.12 (26 Jul 2007 09:11:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 26 11:11:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDzNC-00069t-TN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:11:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDzNC-00017y-3s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IDzN5-000172-W6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:11:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IDzN3-00015W-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:10:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDzN2-00015E-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IDzN1-0003pD-3u; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:10:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IDzMx-0004MV-IL; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:10:52 +0300 In-Reply-To: <18087.52783.900714.744392@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (Nick Roberts's message of "Thu\, 26 Jul 2007 10\:26\:55 +1200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 367251710ae6d8069d2a2bb66b314d03 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1284 [July 25 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75556 Archived-At: > > Currently the double-end arrow pointer shape that indicates the mode-line > > can be dragged obscures the character underneath. How about the change > > below? I realise that Richard thinks that mixing the mouse and keyboard is > > bad UI (although Emacs already does this from the menu-bar and, now with > > vc-mode, from the mode-line with some VC commands) but it changes the > > pointer shape to a hand and gives functionality consistent with the bindings > > for the two previous characters on the mode line (mode-line-toggle-read-only > > and mode-line-toggle-modified) which I think is good UI. > > This drew no response. The patch assigned mouse-1 over the mode-line flag for > default-directory to "cd", i.e., to change default-directory. Assuming it was > unfavourable because it mixed the mouse and keyboard, how about extending > use-file-dialog, which applies to commands from menus and tool bar buttons, to > commands from the mode-line also? That way default-directory could be changed > with the mouse alone. Maybe this should depend on the value of tooltip-mode? When tooltip-mode is on, then display the directory selection dialog. When tooltip-mode is off, then read the directory from the minibuffer. The reason is that the user sets it to off when the user prefers to use the minibuffer and echo area (where tooltips are displayed when tooltip-mode is off). -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/