From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: Info-build-node-completions has an extra `*' node Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:55:57 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <871w79lskc.fsf@jurta.org> References: <006901c871b3$f4da48d0$2d58908d@us.oracle.com> <006a01c871b5$33b5a260$2d58908d@us.oracle.com> <87tzk7godg.fsf@jurta.org> <008301c871c1$9f45d5c0$2d58908d@us.oracle.com> <87k5l3cdk0.fsf@jurta.org> <000001c871cd$64e4a6c0$e140908d@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203379801 10159 80.91.229.12 (19 Feb 2008 00:10:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Drew Adams To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 19 01:10:25 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRG40-0001gN-Ft for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:10:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRG3V-0001uo-OC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRG2l-0001Fx-0S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRG2i-0001Fc-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRG2i-0001FV-9o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRG2h-0002Iy-Vy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRG2h-000783-NL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRG2e-0002HK-JV for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from anti-4.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.202]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRG2e-0002GW-1T; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:09:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by anti-4.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRG2b-000IO7-BC; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:08:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:37:35 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 233cb89e4cdd9c68f6fe52a505261b56 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2252 [Feb 18 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89535 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21208 Archived-At: >> But first things first. What is the rationale for this? Does it really >> fulfill a need? If not, let's just get rid of it, to avoid unnecessary >> confusion. > > I agree. > > Seeing the raw info file as a result of goto-node is pretty odd, > unlikely to be very useful for most people (especially now that info > does inter-node search very naturally with normal isearch), and fairly > likely to confuse those who stumble upon this "feature" by accident. > > Are there people that use this feature regularly? I discovered this feature after reading the Info documentation but never used it. However, I see it could be useful when done right, i.e. if all inter-node navigation worked even on a multi-node buffer (so `u' inside one node moves point to the position of the beginning of its parent node in the same buffer with all nodes, etc.) -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/