From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Improving Emacs (was: usability problem of emacs describe-mode) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:33:07 GMT Organization: Sonera Customer Message-ID: <871vtlro30.fsf@iki.fi> References: <76fcf833-ad89-44f2-b227-e18295317ca2@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <87bpsqqosz.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235677381 18903 80.91.229.12 (26 Feb 2009 19:43:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:43:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 26 20:44:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lcm9H-00071B-9O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:43:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42304 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lcm7w-00051R-CX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:42:36 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.osn.de!diablo1.news.osn.de!feeder.erje.net!feeder2.news.saunalahti.fi!feeder1.news.saunalahti.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central1.inet.fi!inet.fi!read4.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i2R5IaXXZgQpoUP7i7sMeHo0fTc= Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.220.180.181 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi Original-X-Trace: read4.inet.fi 1235676787 80.220.180.181 (Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:33:07 EET) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:33:07 EET Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:167110 comp.emacs:97867 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62412 Archived-At: On 2009-02-25 12:25 (-0800), Xah Lee wrote: > On Feb 25, 11:50 am, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> Why "please perhaps file a bug report" when you can do it yourself? > > I already did. Good. That is constructive, and I agree with the ^L thing. > [...] Because otherwise the fuckheads will start to say i spam. ^^^^^^^^^ But that is not. Code which makes one's point visible is constructive; whining that "fuckheads" don't agree with you and that nobody wants to implement your pet features is not so. Anyway, I find your ergonomic Emacs keybindings[1] interesting, and it's nice that there is code available. I found the keybindings too intrusive, though, so I implemented my own map which only changes certain cursor movement keys. It's a global minor mode with its own mode map so it can be turned on and off easily. The code is here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ergo-movement-mode.el --------------- 1. http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html