From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sending attachments Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:33:57 +0200 Message-ID: <871vojnmga.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247596477 4376 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2009 18:34:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ams@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 14 20:34:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQmpZ-0007cg-GN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:34:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpY-0004y9-Sb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpU-0004ux-69 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpO-0004oV-RG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42630 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmpO-0004oE-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]:63136) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MQmpK-0004ES-KK; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so3868887ewy.42 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=cU4dQQLnZybkyiONU0vDfQ3eYOXXfk5TT9B97M7WOPY=; b=sm5o0HqhMY0VtFWpLVmD5q4RGTIKqP7f8ztad+6b34DXdc4Vp8iX299JiLD5Y/dtJS URTH21+qCAzutAJAtIGapzFle6Q0o268gGP15JpVZTEhvpxYipWCfh/Mhw7BQMxTk50c lm4q3LlTlzMiyCCuDJGImjDPY2IOdVnDiC/DQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=Pk10s1Kn5+DKsg0P5XvevrsuaYbJsSmOxjrASeF4zizIA+AnHK0w6/k5J5G1+O0oww +y+oZaYXSPGmCjjsFcTTmx7Zvzx0YHTtSnfZ0VK+zhGgG0gl+WJ01PVJkyb2bhVt04HD aVN5XNJ6pPXVFLDzc4gDzqheFa7qT2bgvwNfk= Original-Received: by 10.210.35.10 with SMTP id i10mr8156268ebi.93.1247596444900; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ([222.29.50.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm4885136eya.56.2009.07.14.11.34.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:44:18 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112459 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Another problem with Gnus maintenance is that, whenever they see the > need for some other feature, they add it to Gnus, without discussing > it with the Emacs maintainer, and without attempting to make the > package independent of Gnus. > > Another problem is that a lot of the code is ugly and hard to > understand. While this CAN happen to any code, I think the separate > maintenance of Gnus encourages it, since it discourages other people > than the Gnus developers from working on the code at all. Would Gnus maintainers strongly resist to the idea of maintaining Gnus within Emacs? -- Bastien