From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs should have a good web-browser Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:12:49 +0200 Message-ID: <871vo9dqsu.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ocrjl2r6.fsf@gmail.com> <87zlb2bwyj.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87bpnefl73.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248255176 8644 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2009 09:32:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader , ferkiwi+a@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 22 11:32:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MTY9m-0005gZ-6Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:30:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38352 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTY9l-00004q-95 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTXsm-0002VY-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTXsf-0002Q9-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39312 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTXse-0002Pt-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:12:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.145]:19724) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTXsc-0005oC-Me; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:12:54 -0400 Original-Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so64732eyb.24 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:12:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k7YcYQiIDyMuPsGy2NjH0RzW+JwFjpwM+qC31KvsczU=; b=niMeoAddInSmndxnoElP7cYvYI4X08Yu07Tg7eHPwfe+Z++FxiI0Py0hyFabnRA92X 4pV6CIUeXcI/dOKVklWcO+CvKYf6HvWAdo9aAxL5dTw28cvLvX1jgHkyBBqgcIYcATZ/ cgioZdd/2Yli2Vvi+YEnEuMY17EAV0uBAk+tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZyUCh5M25yfj+m04+LLOeveU6eS6b8CqUAkg6Kl7EkMbZ/m6963WZczxjck8yXYjwb HxkGgf2cXxgBR7R25M7cuGvVnTtWDkepGhejlLjNq/JxEoyyj45yuBDTIgXYuaerfak0 HxLig3AoLqicS5x6CTqFpJHhv1pebs87lVDMg= Original-Received: by 10.210.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr736537eba.96.1248253973846; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (vil35-2-82-227-204-220.fbx.proxad.net [82.227.204.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm806618eyf.28.2009.07.22.02.12.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:12:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:52:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112994 Archived-At: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:52:28 -0400, Stefan Monnier said: > It might be possible to use one of those engines as Emacs's rendering > engine, indeed. To me, it wouldn't seem like an good solution to the > problem at hand because I don't think it would allow me to control the > web-browser from Emacs (e.g., how would I access from Elisp the > content of pages generated from HTML?). I am not sure I see what type of use case you mean. Like counting occurences of word =C2=AB dog =C2=BB in a page ? > So it'd be more like embedding Emacs inside a normal browser. It's not > a bad idea, but I don't think it'll provide as many benefits from > Emacs's point of view. I was mainly thinking about the benefits Emacs could get to entrust buffer rendering to a third party component. In the case of a xhtml/css+js engine, the advantage is that it is highly standardised, higly available, and highly maintained, so it would not be a potentialy dead-end dependance. --=20 Paul