From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: re-loading an elisp file Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:01:58 +1100 Organization: Unlimited download news at news.astraweb.com Message-ID: <871v1uajo9.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> References: <87bp1ptwn6.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87r5alb4b2.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <87aagjaelq.fsf@puma.rapttech.com.au> <87ipv73d6t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301096458 8594 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2011 23:40:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:40:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 26 00:40:54 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3Gcg-000865-2t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:40:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3Gcf-0006vI-Jl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:40:53 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.alt.net!border6.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xaB4ijucUrUxUNuIA6i3EMXTSEk= Original-Lines: 71 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: b7b838b6.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=Dkd\7KOV5K`N4DY]]om; IiL?0kYOcDh@jXb<8`kRh<; `]QE`fi=n]\n]G; 2>V^?kWcCAkl5c@XgknATZgkkURnQ`KddBJ=eD4eb Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:186304 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:80434 Archived-At: Jambunathan K writes: >> I prefer to read and respond to more messages than waste time >> editing/correcting when dealing with an informal forum like usernet >> and when the errors rarely affect the point being discussed. > > Right from this thread, you would have noted that errors affect (some) > readers. > > Puts these fact together and decide what makes most sense to you. > > 1. Every reader is a potential respondent. > 2. You have no prior knowledge of what would prevent a reader from > responding. > 3. You have raised a question with some hope that someone out there > would respond. > No, I responded to a question raised by someone else. Nobody has raised any questions relating to confusion due to my use of your instead of you're, which would suggest your points are at best based on a possible 'theoretical' issue that could exist if the grammar was sufficiently confusing, but is not the situation in this case. David's original criticism has valid points in that he is probably correct i.e. getting intot the habit of your instead of you're does have some risks. However, my position is that I don't consider usernet important enough to worry about this sort of minor error in grammar. I respond quickly and don't proof read - my posts will typically be full of such errors and frequent transposition of keys or other typos. I don't care if these errors are archived for posterity and if asked, would clarify any confusion caused (which has rarely ever happened and never happened because of grammar mistakes). If others can't deal with it or feel they cannot rely on content with such errors, they can ignore them. When posting a question, which I rarely find the need to do these days, I will typically spend more effort proof reading - not so much for grammar and typos, but more to ensure my question is as clear as possible. As to David's original warning regarding bad habits - well, that horse has already bolted. I frequently use your instead of you're and am quie aware of this bad habit. As a consequence, it is one of the things I do look for when proof reading more important text (though, due to the extra care taken when writing such text, this error rarely occurs). What I cannot do is easily unlearn this habit when typing quickly - especially when usernet responses are typically a 'flow of consciousness' more like verbally answering a quetion than a more structured and thought out written answer. I suspect the reality is that your v you're just bugs David and he just had to vent a little. My position is this is usernet and you just have to shake your head and move on and get over it as its unlikely to change. > ps: Some people pride themselves of their high typing speeds while few > others pride themselves of their impeccable English. > and thats fine - each to their own. My posts are what they are. If others find them irritating because of minor grammar errors, they are free to ignore them. If others wish to spend more time proof reading and correcting before they post, that is also fine. What is pointless is to even bother worrying about the habits of others and applying your own standards on them.. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au