From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recent change to describe-variable Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:41:08 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <871v1ib8or.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <874o6gur58.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87r59ibbff.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301913696 30683 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2011 10:41:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:41:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 04 12:41:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6hDv-00068p-U3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:41:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6hDu-0000fD-P9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46500 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6hDq-0000ee-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6hDo-00076x-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52228) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6hDo-00076a-1P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6hDk-00063i-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:41:20 +0200 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:41:20 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:41:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6c2ohDMX3YtPnGt4quZeylHLJTo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138105 Archived-At: On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:23:59 +0200 Juanma Barranquero wrote: JB> 2011/4/4 Ted Zlatanov : >> So if `C-h v' AKA `describe-variable' is going to describe everything, >> it should at least filter out self-quoting :symbols JB> At your request I installed a change to exclude :keywords, but the JB> lexbind-new merge overrode it. So if the current predicate is removed JB> it would be good to filter out keywords again (though it makes sense JB> to let pass keywords with a docstring, which my original patch JB> didn't). I'm OK with however you and the maintainers want to do it, fixing that merge override. I do think it makes sense to have `describe-emacs-variable' or `describe-documented-variable' (maybe invoked with `C-u C-h v') to replicate that predicate, but that's a different feature. Thanks Ted