From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:15:31 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <871uzccr2k.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87aaebbndz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DDDA5A7.6040109@siege-engine.com> <87boyp5vyi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxi8xq6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o4ebtq0.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87vcwpsa6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307021241 22568 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2011 13:27:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 13:27:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 02 15:27:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QS7vd-0008Og-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:27:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QS7vc-0004kg-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:27:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QS7kb-0001nw-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QS7kZ-0004sT-Cn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:35261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QS7kY-0004s0-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QS7kU-0002Ub-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:15:42 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:15:42 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 15:15:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SaSBzm87zMFOJruf9fkOHo39L6Q= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140060 Archived-At: On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:05:28 -0400 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Leo >> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:43:35 +0800 >> >> Can this pop up a frame without a title bar, much like what tooltip >> does? EZ> Not without some help from the display engine on the C level, AFAICT. EZ> Tooltips are special kind of frame treated specially by redisplay. I always thought frame decorations came from the window manager; is there a way to tell it "I draw my own title bar"? I think Google Chrome does that. If there's a frame property we can add at the C level to hint this, it would make emacs-panel popups better and probably be nice for Emacs in general. I wouldn't go as far as a tooltip, though. I think it's important that the emacs-panel popup frames be like any other Emacs frame, simply displaying a buffer. That way we can use all the normal buffer-level facilities when we display things inside emacs-panel popups, like text properties and image overlays and UI elements. Ted