From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gdb in emacs 24 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:08:38 +0900 Message-ID: <871uups595.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <8B7ECBAB-1981-408C-8AF7-D171385F727C@gmail.com> <83r52qgfjo.fsf@gnu.org> <8739f5sx2p.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83k48hhmsn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317967732 3509 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2011 06:08:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 06:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 08:08:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RC3bz-0006cX-VI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34902 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RC3bz-0004Dh-2M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:08:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RC3bx-0004Db-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:08:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RC3bw-0000nj-5v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:08:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:50352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RC3bt-0000nP-W5; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFD49707B3; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:08:38 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E57DD1A2739; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:08:38 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <83k48hhmsn.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0a1 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 6c76f5b7e2e3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144668 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Are you sure we are talking about the same exchange? Yes. If this were a conversation among Emacs developers all working on the issue directly, your responses would make sense. In the context of user vs. Emacs developer (the current context), they don't. (Eg, David was clearly confused by them.) The user is expressing requirements, you're talking (in some sense) about the implementation. > You so completely misunderstood what I wrote that I don't even know > where to begin. Precisely. Here, I'm not trying to express understanding of what you wrote (which by the way, *I* had no trouble whatsoever doing). I'm giving an account of what I think the user would understand from it, based not only on my own assessment but on David's responses. > Perhaps re-read what I wrote. Or don't. Time to end this silly > thread. *sigh* I should know better than to try.