From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:03:18 +0900 Message-ID: <871urc46c9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4b4329.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb0b3yoe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6ED011D5-E185-44C6-BB31-A445A4E5F83A@gmail.com> <87wr976otx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipkq6yy5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87boqi6tzz.fsf@linux-hvfx.site> <87ehve3ul8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lipl22xm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87boqh20ha.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325901811 28410 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 02:03:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 02:03:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 03:03:25 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLcz-0008IH-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 03:03:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50174 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLcy-0005mu-Nj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:03:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLcw-0005mp-7L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:03:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLcv-00064o-F8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:03:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:54890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLcv-00064g-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:03:21 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8949707AB for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:03:18 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 33C191A2FD1; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:03:18 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 2dbefd79b3d3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147426 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: > Juanma Barranquero writes: > > The GnuTLS binary is *not* an "Emacs component". > > Silly word play. Not at all. It's an admirably precise statement of Juanma's opinion, and it corresponds to what I believe to be the project's policy on such things. > It's a required component for Emacs in the context of this > discussion. Of course it's not. Nothing related to Windows can be required of Emacs, only permitted given the needed volunteers. Even if a similar practice were a good idea for GNU/Linux systems, it would still be the project's choice whether to consider such a DLL a "component of Emacs" or not. The former means the project accepts responsibility for it (in some "moral" sense even though the license disclaims all legal responsibility), the latter means it's delivered "as is" and defects are the user's problem entirely.