From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nix Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:35:17 +0000 Message-ID: <871uq499vu.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87d39pgdu4.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328744132 12413 80.91.229.3 (8 Feb 2012 23:35:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 09 00:35:31 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RvH2w-00073C-EV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:35:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43144 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvH2v-0008UZ-T9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35465) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvH2t-0008UU-5c for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvH2s-0003hb-1h for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:26 -0500 Original-Received: from icebox.esperi.org.uk ([81.187.191.129]:42084 helo=mail.esperi.org.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvH2r-0003gi-Ic for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:35:26 -0500 Original-Received: from esperi.org.uk (nix@spindle.srvr.nix [192.168.14.15]) by mail.esperi.org.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q18NZHdj009652; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:35:17 GMT Original-Received: (from nix@localhost) by esperi.org.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q18NZHTe006260; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:35:17 GMT Emacs: freely redistributable; void where prohibited by law. In-Reply-To: <87d39pgdu4.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:28:03 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-STAT_FI_X86_64_VIRTUAL-Metrics: spindle 1245; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 81.187.191.129 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148383 Archived-At: On 8 Feb 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen verbalised: > Meanwhile, most of the people who program Emacs Lisp daily (i.e., people > like me) have always been in favour of including it. Who doesn't want > `incf'? `plusp'? `delete-if-not'? `position'? So you get all these > hundreds of reimplementations of all these necessary functions, only > spread over all the different packages. Exactly. It's the latter ugliness that I think is really, well, ugly. Duplicated code: duplicated overheads: duplicated bugs. Bleah. -- NULL && (void)