* [Bug] Export Coding System
@ 2013-02-22 10:28 Achim Gratz
2013-02-22 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-22 10:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: emacs-orgmode
I've ran into this before, but I guess I wasn't able to clearly explain what the
issue was at the time... so let's try again.
I'm exporting an Org file in UTF-8 to LaTeX. Unless I switch the coding system
in Emacs from "default" to "UTF-8" (which has the side effect that any new
buffer will have UTF-8 coding, which is usually not what I want), the LaTeX
buffer gets created with ISO8859-1/latin-1 encoding (which is dead wrong,
because several characters in the document are in fact not representable in that
encoding). Changing the option "Org Export Latex Coding System" to utf-8
doesn't change how the LaTeX buffer gets created, but it will then helpfully ask
when its time to save the buffer if I want to save it as UTF-8 (no, I want it
created with UTF-8, not changed to a different encoding on save). That salvages
a few characters, but the larger damage of \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} doesn't
get changed of course.
The coding system of any export buffers should by default follow the Org buffer
they are created from and any changes to the coding system stipulated by export
configuration must be applied before the buffer coding system gets used to make
any decisions on how to export things.
Regards,
Achim.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 10:28 [Bug] Export Coding System Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-22 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-22 15:06 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-22 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hello, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@NexGo.DE> writes: > I'm exporting an Org file in UTF-8 to LaTeX. Unless I switch the coding system > in Emacs from "default" to "UTF-8" (which has the side effect that any new > buffer will have UTF-8 coding, which is usually not what I want), the LaTeX > buffer gets created with ISO8859-1/latin-1 encoding (which is dead wrong, > because several characters in the document are in fact not representable in that > encoding). Changing the option "Org Export Latex Coding System" to utf-8 > doesn't change how the LaTeX buffer gets created, but it will then helpfully ask > when its time to save the buffer if I want to save it as UTF-8 (no, I want it > created with UTF-8, not changed to a different encoding on save). That salvages > a few characters, but the larger damage of \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} doesn't > get changed of course. > > The coding system of any export buffers should by default follow the Org buffer > they are created from and any changes to the coding system stipulated by export > configuration must be applied before the buffer coding system gets used to make > any decisions on how to export things. IIUC, there is no such thing as a coding system associated to a buffer. A coding system only kicks in when doing some I/O operation. Anyway, with the same context described above, what's the return value for: (detect-coding-string (org-export-as 'latex) t) in the buffer you want to export? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-22 15:06 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-22 16:23 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-22 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou <at> gmail.com> writes: > IIUC, there is no such thing as a coding system associated to a buffer. > A coding system only kicks in when doing some I/O operation. The coding system should be associated with the file the buffer is visiting, but a fresh buffer still shows a coding system indicator in the modeline even if it is not (yet) associated with a file. That coding system always seems to be the default coding system as provided by the language environment. > Anyway, with the same context described above, what's the return value > for: > > (detect-coding-string (org-export-as 'latex) t) Depends on what language environment is set to, but with the default setting of my Emacs (German) it becomes iso-latin-1, independently of what the coding system in the original Org buffer was. I think that the export buffer coding system should be explicitly set (via buffer-file-coding-system, which is automatically buffer-local) to copy the coding of the parent buffer (or the coding specified via export options if anything like that exists) so that the default choice of the language environment doesn't kick in. Regards, Achim. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 15:06 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-22 16:23 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-22 21:29 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-22 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Achim Gratz <Stromeko@NexGo.DE> writes: > Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou <at> gmail.com> writes: >> IIUC, there is no such thing as a coding system associated to a buffer. >> A coding system only kicks in when doing some I/O operation. > > The coding system should be associated with the file the buffer is visiting, but > a fresh buffer still shows a coding system indicator in the modeline even if it > is not (yet) associated with a file. That coding system always seems to be the > default coding system as provided by the language environment. > >> Anyway, with the same context described above, what's the return value >> for: >> >> (detect-coding-string (org-export-as 'latex) t) > > Depends on what language environment is set to, but with the default setting of > my Emacs (German) it becomes iso-latin-1, independently of what the coding > system in the original Org buffer was. In this case, it should be `utf-8', shouldn't it? > I think that the export buffer coding system should be explicitly set (via > buffer-file-coding-system, which is automatically buffer-local) to copy the > coding of the parent buffer (or the coding specified via export options if > anything like that exists) so that the default choice of the language > environment doesn't kick in. Still trying to understand: is the coding system wrong when you export to a file, to a (temporary) buffer, or both? Note that `org-export-to-file' use `coding-system-for-write', which overrides `buffer-file-coding-system'. So this variable is probably irrelevant here. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 16:23 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-22 21:29 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-22 22:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-22 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Depends on what language environment is set to, but with the default setting of >> my Emacs (German) it becomes iso-latin-1, independently of what the coding >> system in the original Org buffer was. > > In this case, it should be `utf-8', shouldn't it? I want it to be utf-8, but it isn't. The course of events is apparently that when a new buffer gets created it will have the default coding system. You are then apparently asking that buffer for the coding system (always the default) and set inputenc accordingly, but should have asked the parent Org buffer. Or so I think, a few details are probably still wrong. >> I think that the export buffer coding system should be explicitly set (via >> buffer-file-coding-system, which is automatically buffer-local) to copy the >> coding of the parent buffer (or the coding specified via export options if >> anything like that exists) so that the default choice of the language >> environment doesn't kick in. > > Still trying to understand: is the coding system wrong when you export > to a file, to a (temporary) buffer, or both? Both. > Note that `org-export-to-file' use `coding-system-for-write', which > overrides `buffer-file-coding-system'. So this variable is probably > irrelevant here. No it is not irrelevant, it simply gets set too late in the game: it asks for the new coding system when it is time to save the buffer, while the content of the buffer has been cobbled together while assuming a different coding system. The only way I know (from browsing the documentation) to override the coding system for a buffer that does not yet have a file association is to set that variable directly, preferrably directly after the buffer is created. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 21:29 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-22 22:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-23 9:29 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-26 12:50 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-22 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1907 bytes --] Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: >>> Depends on what language environment is set to, but with the default setting of >>> my Emacs (German) it becomes iso-latin-1, independently of what the coding >>> system in the original Org buffer was. >> >> In this case, it should be `utf-8', shouldn't it? > > I want it to be utf-8, but it isn't. The course of events is apparently > that when a new buffer gets created it will have the default coding > system. You are then apparently asking that buffer for the coding > system (always the default) and set inputenc accordingly, but should > have asked the parent Org buffer. Or so I think, a few details are > probably still wrong. > >>> I think that the export buffer coding system should be explicitly set (via >>> buffer-file-coding-system, which is automatically buffer-local) to copy the >>> coding of the parent buffer (or the coding specified via export options if >>> anything like that exists) so that the default choice of the language >>> environment doesn't kick in. >> >> Still trying to understand: is the coding system wrong when you export >> to a file, to a (temporary) buffer, or both? > > Both. > >> Note that `org-export-to-file' use `coding-system-for-write', which >> overrides `buffer-file-coding-system'. So this variable is probably >> irrelevant here. > > No it is not irrelevant, it simply gets set too late in the game: it > asks for the new coding system when it is time to save the buffer, while > the content of the buffer has been cobbled together while assuming a > different coding system. The only way I know (from browsing the > documentation) to override the coding system for a buffer that does not > yet have a file association is to set that variable directly, > preferrably directly after the buffer is created. Does the following patch fix the problem? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #2: Fix encoding problem --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 1237 bytes --] From ed16f38854c197e8b31607bd32622d00e47fe10c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:07:04 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] ox: Fix coding system error * lisp/ox.el (org-export--generate-copy-script): Clone `buffer-file-coding-system' when creating a buffer copy. This patches makes sure the output will share the same encoding as the original buffer. --- lisp/ox.el | 11 +++++++---- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/ox.el b/lisp/ox.el index efce29d..65e5acd 100644 --- a/lisp/ox.el +++ b/lisp/ox.el @@ -2729,10 +2729,13 @@ another buffer, effectively cloning the original buffer there." (val (cdr entry))) (and (not (eq var 'org-font-lock-keywords)) (or (memq var - '(major-mode default-directory - buffer-file-name outline-level - outline-regexp - buffer-invisibility-spec)) + '(major-mode + default-directory + buffer-file-name + buffer-file-coding-system + outline-level + outline-regexp + buffer-invisibility-spec)) (string-match "^\\(org-\\|orgtbl-\\)" (symbol-name var))) ;; Skip unreadable values, as they cannot be -- 1.8.1.4 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 22:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 9:29 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-23 10:31 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-26 12:50 ` Achim Gratz 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> No it is not irrelevant, it simply gets set too late in the game: it >> asks for the new coding system when it is time to save the buffer, while >> the content of the buffer has been cobbled together while assuming a >> different coding system. The only way I know (from browsing the >> documentation) to override the coding system for a buffer that does not >> yet have a file association is to set that variable directly, >> preferrably directly after the buffer is created. > > Does the following patch fix the problem? It fixes the problem when the Org buffer encoding is identical to the encoding for the LaTeX file. It doesn't fix the problem when I want to export the file in a different encoding (for instance by customizing Org Export Latex Coding System), that would require a second step of re-setting the buffer-file-coding-system before using it to determine what to write into the inputenc option. Other exporters like HTML probably also have a way (or should have it) to determine the target coding system independently from the input coding system, so this is not a LaTeX only exercise. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-23 9:29 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 10:31 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-23 11:35 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 406 bytes --] Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes: > It doesn't fix the problem when I want to export the file in > a different encoding (for instance by customizing Org Export Latex > Coding System), that would require a second step of re-setting the > buffer-file-coding-system before using it to determine what to write > into the inputenc option. Would the following patch work? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #2: 0001-ox-latex-Set-inputenc-option-according-to-org-export.patch --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 931 bytes --] From 2f2591719cc41e7312401ce7368b4bbbdde2c8ad Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:29:45 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] ox-latex: Set inputenc option according to `org-export-coding-system' * lisp/ox-latex.el (org-latex-guess-inputenc): Set inputenc option according to `org-export-coding-system'. --- lisp/ox-latex.el | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/lisp/ox-latex.el b/lisp/ox-latex.el index cbeaa4e..4047aa2 100644 --- a/lisp/ox-latex.el +++ b/lisp/ox-latex.el @@ -946,7 +946,7 @@ when specified inputenc option is \"AUTO\". Return the new header, as a string." (let* ((cs (or (ignore-errors (latexenc-coding-system-to-inputenc - buffer-file-coding-system)) + (or org-export-coding-system buffer-file-coding-system))) "utf8"))) (if (not cs) header ;; First translate if that is requested. -- 1.8.1.4 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-23 10:31 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 11:35 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-23 13:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Would the following patch work? Not for LaTeX export AFAICS, ox-latex doesn't seem to use org-export-coding-system. But that'd arguably be a bug in ox-latex, then (more specifically org-latex-guess-inputenc), which is easily fixed after that patch has been applied. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-23 11:35 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 13:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-23 13:31 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Would the following patch work? > > Not for LaTeX export AFAICS, ox-latex doesn't seem to use > org-export-coding-system. But that'd arguably be a bug in ox-latex, > then (more specifically org-latex-guess-inputenc), I don't understand your answer. My default coding system is utf-8 and inputenc option is AUTO. When I eval: (setq org-export-coding-system 'iso-latin-1) and export some test buffer to LaTeX, with the suggested patch, I get: \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} So it looks like `org-export-coding-system' variable is taken into consideration, doesn't it? > which is easily fixed after that patch has been applied. What fix are you talking about? For now, I apply the previous patch. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-23 13:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 13:31 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-23 13:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Not for LaTeX export AFAICS, ox-latex doesn't seem to use >> org-export-coding-system. But that'd arguably be a bug in ox-latex, >> then (more specifically org-latex-guess-inputenc), > > I don't understand your answer. > > My default coding system is utf-8 and inputenc option is AUTO. When > I eval: > > (setq org-export-coding-system 'iso-latin-1) The LaTeX exporter used to have a custom variable org-export-latex-coding-system for this. This variable is not evaluated anymore but still visible in customize due to the fact that the new exporter didn't override the definition from the old exporter. So it's no wonder that nothing changes when I customize away on this variable. The only new exporter that defines its own coding system is currently the HTML exporter. > and export some test buffer to LaTeX, with the suggested patch, I get: > > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > > So it looks like `org-export-coding-system' variable is taken into > consideration, doesn't it? Yes, but I was looking at the example in the HTML exporter that would prefer its own coding system over the general export coding system and expected to see something similar. > What fix are you talking about? Introducing and using a defcustom specifically for LaTeX export (if anything at all). > For now, I apply the previous patch. Please apply the second one, too. Now I'll have to go and see what twisted ways it takes for the old exporter defcustoms to show up in customize, they shouldn't have been there at all. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf rackAttack: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-23 13:31 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 13:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-23 15:35 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes: > Introducing and using a defcustom specifically for LaTeX export (if > anything at all). I don't think it is really important, considering you can also bind it buffer-wise. On the other hand, a back-end independent variable is much more easy to handle. > Now I'll have to go and see what twisted ways it takes for the old > exporter defcustoms to show up in customize, they shouldn't have been > there at all. As I explained in my announcement for new export framework, this is due to customize autoloads from bundled Org (cus-load.el). As soon as you call customize, these old friends are loaded. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-23 13:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-23 15:35 ` Achim Gratz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-23 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Now I'll have to go and see what twisted ways it takes for the old >> exporter defcustoms to show up in customize, they shouldn't have been >> there at all. > > As I explained in my announcement for new export framework, this is due > to customize autoloads from bundled Org (cus-load.el). As soon as you > call customize, these old friends are loaded. Welp, and its all done with symbol properties so it would really be fun to weed these out. Great. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-22 22:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2013-02-23 9:29 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-26 12:50 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-26 17:51 ` Achim Gratz 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-26 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou <at> gmail.com> writes: > Does the following patch fix the problem? I've just had a chance to test this on the system where the problem originally showed up (Cygwin with the current 24.3 pre-release). On this system, the buffer-file-coding-system is not copied and the (wrong) default takes over again. I'm puzzled, I can't see how this happens... Regards, Achim. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-26 12:50 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-26 17:51 ` Achim Gratz 2013-02-27 13:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-26 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Achim Gratz writes: > I've just had a chance to test this on the system where the problem originally > showed up (Cygwin with the current 24.3 pre-release). On this system, the > buffer-file-coding-system is not copied and the (wrong) default takes over > again. I'm puzzled, I can't see how this happens... Also tested it with NT-Emacs on the same system and it also doesn't copy all variables to the export buffer. I can't find anything wrong with the macro, however, if I run the code there directly it works. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: [Bug] Export Coding System 2013-02-26 17:51 ` Achim Gratz @ 2013-02-27 13:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-27 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hello, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes: > Achim Gratz writes: >> I've just had a chance to test this on the system where the problem originally >> showed up (Cygwin with the current 24.3 pre-release). On this system, the >> buffer-file-coding-system is not copied and the (wrong) default takes over >> again. I'm puzzled, I can't see how this happens... > > Also tested it with NT-Emacs on the same system and it also doesn't copy > all variables to the export buffer. I can't find anything wrong with > the macro, however, if I run the code there directly it works. Can you reproduce the problem in both synchronous and asynchronous export? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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