From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:03:04 -0500 Message-ID: <871ubhn9k7.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9q8xt5b.fsf@gmail.com> <83ehfkjocu.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4jjks82.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> <878v5qbsz8.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363284194 10052 80.91.229.3 (14 Mar 2013 18:03:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 14 19:03:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGCV7-0003N1-SI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:03:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGCUl-0008Da-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:03:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGCUg-00088q-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGCUd-0007Lq-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]:47182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGCUd-0007LD-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 10so3399546ied.16 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:03:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=3tPFZiNZNQ08VQo60lSTYnNcgxR2EyjchhbQHVFs9Yw=; b=m5xyVNOhdTK6Ie8GiJmELS1rqHcXUorc87Fb5T3dWCanXInItL7E6UYmaolaFqldpe RtKUkeKLj9bKemNyj35B2PxI+ib6CwHF8mTI5HuNXGUYbOs+PS2whJOKpyKskDG1Zy1x ctNxUD5SYTx7+6m8ynC4DjyARXSMAVFhbGteOJjQ4NVIyMhhdg7mtIirDYzArNsaJ0Zs ioDPtLiUxaxafExbC+836O0RdpQ9SoFFPm3Ll6m6uAmXkFPlIBYptstRJj3wmzvYiDay zDPiRouU40yBrst5yGSEtPTB3DPm4yQwganlFCYQxBci0zkhPk9ipEobgVWfAIZffDfl OF/w== X-Received: by 10.50.47.170 with SMTP id e10mr21562462ign.84.1363284186505; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from kwarm.red-bean.com (74-92-190-113-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [74.92.190.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ua6sm8553771igb.0.2013.03.14.11.03.05 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:03:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878v5qbsz8.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:14:27 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157865 Archived-At: Jambunathan K writes: >> - Accept no further changes from him. >> - Don't let him post on the dev mailing lists any more, period. > >I may have a stinking personality. But the code I write has a secular >nature. The code doesn't take the smell of the hand it types. As W. Greenhouse also pointed out, the issue is not your code itself (the quality of which is not in question) but the fact that people can't count on your future code being usable in Emacs. People can't count on *their* investment in your code having the anticipated payoff, for them. That makes your future contributions unsafe; ergo, Emacs should not accept them. I made this point pretty clearly in my orginal post, but make it again here only in case anyone watching was thrown by your confusion of two separate issues.