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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Speeding up Emacs load time
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:55:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871u6ym7xi.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1196.1374013270.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

> Sunglasses in a dark room is overdoing it. Just a bit. :)

On the contrary, that's great. There is no such thing as
"overdoing" when solving a problem. If you solve a problem 100%
what does it hurt to solve it 120%?

But that's not even relevant because this is not overdoing. I
never solved a single problem in my life 100% - I reduced them,
built support around them, rolled with them ...

> Mouse is fine for "just reading"

I think the mouse is a killer. It is not productive, it is not
ergonomic. Perhaps some "wheel" on the keyboard for just reading,
so your arms are at least resting, if you want a more "analogue"
UX. Perhaps in as GIS application the mouse is motivated, but
actually even then, I doubt it.

> And, yeah, "dark" browser themes with light pieces sticking out
> are even more painful.

I'm way beyond themes. I setup everything face by face. That
wasn't possible in FF/Iceweasel, which was part of why I switched
to Emacs-w3m (but not the sole reason).

If you talk a look at the dump I posted, the *colors* are not
dark. (Without sunglasses, I would make everything dark.)

Check out this HP I put together on colors I while back. I don't
use X anymore, but I thought it would be a waste of effort not to
publish the work I put into it. There are lots of Emacs stuff, and
screenshots, to.

http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/cols/www/index.html

> IME, the main point is to keep contrast level more or less
> unchanging. Eyes adapt to the lighting level relatively easily.

In a brightly lit room, with monitors (not projectors), with -
well, basically everything I described earlier, that I didn't like
- I'd go *blind*.

> Lowering the monitor brightness level a bit never hurts, though.

I tried that, but I never got a solid conclusion - sometimes, not
*seeing* made for a problem just as big - I dropped monitors
altogether, I'm exclusively using the projectors at my school. I
don't watch TV (never), but sometimes I got to the cinema, with
less strain. I suppose it is the same principle - distance,
relaxation, those things I mentioned...

> Ah, ok. But overall, your whole workflow description likely
> means that you have a *lower* pain threshold than Eli, which was
> his point.

*Lower* what? (What does that mean?) As for pain management, I
have practitioned boxing and Muay Thai (kickboxing), and I have
been productive with computers while at the same time experiencing
severe hand and eye pain. I don't know what more there is to
it. Reality.

-- 
Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below)
computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573


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2013-06-25 23:06   ` Speeding up Emacs load time Andrew Pennebaker
2013-06-26  2:02     ` Hongxu Chen
2013-06-26  7:30       ` Didier Verna
2013-06-26 17:04     ` J. David Boyd
2013-06-26 17:15       ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2013-07-15  1:02       ` Ken Goldman
2013-07-15  1:33         ` Andrew Pennebaker
2013-07-15  6:20           ` Glyn Millington
2013-07-15  8:15             ` Rasmus
2013-07-15  8:05           ` Peter Dyballa
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2013-07-24 20:50             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-07-24 21:22               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-25  7:25                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-07-25 14:20               ` J. David Boyd
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2013-07-25 19:24                 ` Sebastien Vauban
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1061.1373851999.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-15 14:06           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-15 14:45             ` Peter Dyballa
2013-07-15 15:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-15 16:08               ` J. David Boyd
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1105.1373903184.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-15 17:00               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-15 18:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-07-15 19:49                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16  2:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-20 22:08                       ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.1142.1373942379.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-16  4:13                       ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16  9:42                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 13:37                           ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16 13:39                           ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-16 20:13                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 21:02                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  0:54                               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.1203.1374024479.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-17  1:41                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  2:05                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.1205.1374026774.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-17  2:24                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  2:42                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.1206.1374028983.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-17  8:30                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  9:31                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.1232.1374053532.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-19 10:18                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-19 14:51                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.1394.1374245509.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-19 16:02                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-20  0:03                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.1439.1374278629.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-20  4:27                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-20  4:35                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-08-28 23:08                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 17:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-16 10:07                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 17:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.1176.1373997462.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-16 19:58                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 20:38                             ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.1187.1374007454.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-16 21:11                               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  8:36                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-07-16 21:25                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-17  0:57                               ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.1191.1374009934.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-16 21:37                               ` Dan Espen
2013-07-16 22:05                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.1194.1374012333.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-17  1:02                                   ` Dan Espen
2013-07-17  4:29                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-17  6:04                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 12:24                                         ` Eye strain and ergonomics Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-18 20:01                                           ` James Freer
     [not found]                                         ` <mailman.1251.1374063906.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-19 10:30                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 12:36                                       ` Speeding up Emacs load time Dan Espen
2013-07-16 21:40                               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 22:21                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2013-07-16 22:55                                   ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2013-07-16 23:48                                     ` Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Drew Adams
2013-07-17  2:54                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-19 16:21                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-07-19 17:24                                         ` Drew Adams
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2013-07-20  4:20                                           ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-07-20  4:23                                         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.1200.1374018533.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-07-17  0:04                                       ` Highway Musophobia Revisited Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17  3:09                                         ` Drew Adams
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2013-07-17  6:14                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-17 10:42                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-17 10:42                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-17 16:20                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-07-17 12:27                                       ` Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Rustom Mody
2013-07-19 10:35                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16  5:12                 ` Speeding up Emacs load time Jambunathan K
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2013-07-16  9:51                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-16 12:26                     ` Jambunathan K
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2013-07-16 20:15                       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-28  3:20     ` Bob Proulx
2013-06-28  5:27       ` Hongxu Chen
2013-06-28 19:53         ` Bob Proulx
2013-06-28 12:48       ` J. David Boyd
2013-06-28 14:00         ` J. David Boyd
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2013-06-28 14:16           ` Dan Espen
2013-06-28 19:06             ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2650.1372389614.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-06-28 20:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-29  5:04         ` Eric Abrahamsen
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2013-06-29 17:44           ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30  0:45             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-06-30 12:46             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 14:04               ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30 18:06                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 15:00               ` Eric Abrahamsen
     [not found]               ` <mailman.2850.1372604415.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-06-30 16:07                 ` Rustom Mody
2013-06-30 18:17                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-30 18:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-01  5:29                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-06-29 17:51         ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2800.1372528321.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-06-30 12:36           ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-06-26  1:16     ` Dan Espen
2013-06-27 16:14     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-06-27 17:50       ` J. David Boyd
2013-07-21  3:59     ` Rustom Mody
2013-07-21 14:18       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-07-21 14:41         ` Rustom Mody

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