From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Richard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: broken thread (was: don't show the $-bar that...) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: <871u6mux3p.fsf_-_@yahoo.fr> References: <87ehap9mam.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kfx4sh.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <51f00beb$0$2060$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87wqof27ae.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871a4299-aefc-4982-b90f-ef3f4d3b2176@googlegroups.com> <87ppu7qdo2.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871u6mtuyl.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <45906ab3-98b0-4277-b18d-d14cd3efad45@googlegroups.com> <87r4emqxj4.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374791390 28389 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2013 22:29:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 26 00:29:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2U2i-0001Rr-E6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 00:29:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Tuf-0003VT-Nx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39067) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Ttl-0002uw-E8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Ttk-0000VD-B2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:20:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.128.112]:9363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Ttk-0000Ui-5f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:20:36 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEGAKSc8VGkD4Nx/2dsb2JhbABagzuqJYU1jleBLXSCJAEBAQMBAQILVxQFCwgROBAEFDUTh30BDAYMqBeHPwGJNY99B4QAA5UYgkeBKYRniz2DFjo Original-Received: from geodiff-mac3.ulb.ac.be (HELO geodiff-mac3) ([164.15.131.113]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2013 23:51:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r4emqxj4.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:55:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 164.15.128.112 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92433 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> It could have been interpreted as "Piss off!" if I wrote _only_ the >> last remark. But I didn't. I answered the questions _first_. > > That doesn't matter. There is no balance. If you are rude, it > doesn't matter if you were nice all day before you turned rude. I don't think it's a question of balance. I could elaborate a little bit, but IMO it's beside the point anyway. What I want to say is : if he says there was no rudeness involved, you don't lose much (if anything) by trusting him. As hard as can be, you should assume good faith for some time before deciding that someone is actually insulting you. Maybe you still think that it *felt* rude, but then you should feel relieved, now that you know it wasn't meant to be rude. Ok, now I have a problem : this thread looks broken on my Gnus. What can be done to avoid this state ? e.g. when on the message I'm now responding to, I can't get to its parent using "A r" in gnus. It seems also broken on the web archive at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-07/msg00462.html -- Nico. [*] Obviously it should apply to many people, including myself. Well, I find it incredibly hard to follow this. Even with close relatives. This is off topic though.