From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:38:48 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <871u0ktcdj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87bnzshlo5.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87bnzshlo5.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <20140103.200846.1574807089640559527.cokesboy@gmail.com> <87a9f8g22x.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <76f5b9cd-3452-4189-b3a0-30dc55a3ee55@default> <87wqic65kj.fsf@wanadoo.es> <874n5gfvjv.fsf@mac.com> <93a2d060-c7f8-4ce3-9bff-f7397be690ff@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389083953 10403 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 08:39:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 08:39:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 09:39:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0SBw-0007Ge-7h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:39:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0SBv-0001J6-Sm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:39:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0SBn-0001HD-Oo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0SBi-0002iq-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:39:07 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0SBi-0002ii-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:39:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0SBg-0006nD-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:39:00 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f5214e.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.33.78]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:39:00 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f5214e.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:39:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f5214e.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ub7cgoCbw/D24kXUcmjYT72nHP0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167580 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Hi Eric, > >> >> > Why shouldn't GNU Emacs enable all three by default? >> >> > That would help GNU Emacs users more, I think. >> >> >> >> One easy answer is that MELPA and Marmalade are non under the >> >> control of the Emacs prooject. >> > >> > So? GNU Emacs is not responsible for whatever it might be that >> > those repos have or do. And I think we (should) know by now >> > that most, if not all, of what they do can be helpful for Emacs >> > users. >> >> I think this falls into the category of "should a GNU project >> recommend repositories that contain non-free software?" > > Putting them in the available-by-default list does *not* > recommend them, IMO. No, it endorses them. Much stronger. -- David Kastrup