From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Loris Bennett" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:01:52 +0100 Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <871toiqbv3.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <873891sgaw.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417536358 31516 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2014 16:05:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:05:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 02 17:05:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XvpxW-0000E5-O0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:05:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37513 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvpxV-0008As-QU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:05:49 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de uHH0JtzuDEY1MW1mZf5bxg4kNPG2pFWS934LQ/SZP4f0Ox Cancel-Lock: sha1:CrnJ4FTCd13gG/BgyR148UNi7Ms= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209091 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101370 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Raffaele Ricciardi >> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:50:36 +0100 >> >> The problem is that old Emacs pros don't explain the Emacs work-flow to >> novices and therefore novices are left to "connect the dots" on their >> own. When novices fail to connect some dots, they resort to configure >> Emacs to achieve some goals in a way that they know. > > That theory cannot explain how novices become "old pros". At some > point along the time line, the Emacs workflow becomes somehow known to > yesterday's novices, and then they no longer need some or maybe most > of those customizations. But that can't happen by itself, so > something is clearly missing in your hypothesis. Some of us just become "old novices" with two decades worth of cargo-cult cruft in our .emacs ... Cheers, Loris PS: What's "the Emacs work-flow"? Is it anything like the Swiss Army Knife Workflow or the Kitchen Sink Workflow? -- This signature is currently under construction.