From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More metaproblem Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:35:03 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <871tofvh2g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141203192721.GE12748@thyrsus.com> <547F6774.50700@cs.ucla.edu> <838uio5vjw.fsf@gnu.org> <20141203211447.GB15111@thyrsus.com> <871toge5zw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <83388v6hsq.fsf@gnu.org> <85egsfpytd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83sigv4ttc.fsf@gnu.org> <20141204102742.GA31661@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417689364 19526 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2014 10:36:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 10:36:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 11:35:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTlM-00037V-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:35:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45242 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTlL-0000fe-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:35:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTkv-0000fT-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:35:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTkn-0006Nr-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:35:29 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTkn-0006Mm-FU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:35:21 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwTkk-0002m9-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:35:18 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f436f0.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.54.240]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:35:18 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f436f0.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:35:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f436f0.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qv06xQj8UBlvhL+lGnStsDxOgd8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178817 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Eli Zaretskii : >> > From: Stephen Leake >> > Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 03:08:14 -0600 >> > >> > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > >> > >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> > >> >For Emacs to attract new developers, its code and the culture need to >> > >> >be discoverable. As part of this, practice rules need to be *clear*, >> > >> >*documented*, and *minimal*. Right now they fail all three tests. >> > >> >> > > See admin/notes/repo and admin/notes/commits. What else is missing? >> > >> > That does not describe the changelog entry/commit message format. There >> > is admin/notes/changelog, which contains a reference to the Gnu coding >> > standards and some hints. >> >> Maybe we should simply move all that into etc/CONTRIBUTE, and leave in >> admin/notes only stuff that is minor/obscure etc. > > I agree, and was intending to suggest that myself. admin/notes should only contain stuff relevant for people with push access. Preparing a patch does not entail that. -- David Kastrup